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Anybody who didn’t see this coming hasn’t been paying attention. There’s been plenty of time to move, retrain, whatever. The government has probably failed the
by alistairSH 1y ago
Anybody who didn’t see this coming hasn’t been paying attention. There’s been plenty of time to move, retrain, whatever. The government has probably failed these people in one way or another, but these tend to be areas the say they value self-sufficiency and minimal government interference , so…
- zahlman 1y ago> move To where, with what savings? > retrain To do what, in this area, with what existing infrastructure?
- ironman1478 1y agoI don't believe in retraining, but tons of immigrants move for better opportunities with very little savings. It's difficult and unfortunate, but it's necessary
- bluefirebrand 1y agoPeople probably should not be forced to behave like desperate immigrants within the borders of their own country though
- ironman1478 1y agoWhy not? It'll probably build character. Also, it's happened all the time? People have been doing it for all of America's history. Tons of famous media is about people moving to the city for a better life.
- 8note 1y agopeople also shouldnt be forced to bend over backwards to ensure these couple villages never have to change their coal mining ways.
- zahlman 1y agoFrom their perspective, this should require no effort; it is forcing them to change which requires effort. Of course I want the use of coal to stop. But you need to reckon with these kinds of human factors if you want to effect change peacefully. This is where Clinton failed. Having a documented plan to spend billions (somewhere on the order of 10 years of salary per miner, from numbers I could glean elsewhere in this discussion) doesn't make an impression when you have well-documented sound bites claiming that you intend to put them "out of business".
- alistairSH 1y agoThere are retrains programs dotted all over WV and Appalachia. They cover everything from construction and other trades to IT and more office-focused jobs.
- joquarky 1y agoWhat office focused jobs?
- ModernMech 1y ago> To do what, in this area, with what existing infrastructure? Right! It's a real chicken and egg scenario. It would seem to me that without this infrastructure, it would be very hard to retrain and build new industries. It would really benefit the people of these regions to vote for people who, as a matter of policy, would bring training and infrastructure to them. Unfortunately, the people who most benefit from such policies vote against them [1], so the resources available are insufficient. So the conversation is about poverty reduction through social programs to support people working in a dying industry, rather than growing new industries. The solution, might be to vote for people proposing such resources, which I know is a radical idea, but it's at least something new to try. https://medium.com/hillary-for-america/the-future-of-america-s-rural-economy-5176e6201777 https://medium.com/hillary-for-america/the-future-of-america...
- tzs 1y agoHere's the plan she had specifically for coal communities [1]. [1] https://static.politico.com/b8/90/cbbc9c59413089d87e8d6340f13d/clinton-releases-30-billion-strategy-to-help-coal-communities.pdf https://static.politico.com/b8/90/cbbc9c59413089d87e8d6340f1...
- bryanlarsen 1y agoClinton had promised a large pile of cash to do this. Voters preferred Trump's lie that he would save the jobs.