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I've never done official pair programming, but I get frustrated when I'm not on the keyboard as I find others think slower.
by dylan604 1y ago
I've never done official pair programming, but I get frustrated when I'm not on the keyboard as I find others think slower.
- glxxyz 1y ago"no the other one, down a bit, no the one above, no go back..."
- airtonix 1y agoup up up up ... you went too far....
- Dilettante_ 1y agoThis is why you need to learn vim commands /hj
- mrbombastic 1y agoCalling out explicit line numbers and zoom annotation tools help with this
- kmoser 1y agoHave you tried plugging in a second keyboard and taking over where necessary? I do a lot of remote work in which my colleague and I work on the same computer and it's quite useful for either of us to jump in with our own keyboard (and mouse). It does take a bit of occasional verbal negotiation to agree on who really knows what to do (and can do it fastest) but if you communicate well then it's pretty easy.
- ustad 1y agoCan you say more about your setup? Does it require extra hardware/software?
- kmoser 1y agoWe're just using TeamViewer. I connect remotely to my colleague's computer while they are sitting in front of their keyboard.
- arresin 1y agoDamn I wish I had a relationship with someone like that.
- karmakaze 1y agoRight I only call using the same computer pair programming. Now working remote (with Tuple app) it's still two keyboards/mice on one computer (sometimes mine, sometimes theirs), though it's infrequent for specific tasks.
- Waterluvian 1y agoThe wildest thing I experienced once was this experimental “two cursors, two highlights, two clipboards” setup. I badly wish that had caught on. It was like Google Docs but Local Multiplayer.
- nine_k 1y agoOne of my previous employers, Dynaboard, built approximately that. The Show HN post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30261598 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30261598
- goosejuice 1y agoTuple.app does this. It's pricey but an excellent product.
- konsalexee 1y agoIf you enjoy Tuple, we just silently open-sourced Hopp (one of the maintainers here), we are still in Beta era, but would love some feedback!
- karmakaze 1y agoI sometimes wish the separate clipboards could be turned off, or have a way of pasting from the other's clipboard.
- EagnaIonat 1y agoThere is evidence that two people on the keyboard can increase productivity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl6rsi7BEtk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl6rsi7BEtk
- stevetron 1y agoWhat about an editor that is designed for multiple people to edit the same document? Tie the second keyboard, the second mouse, and a second cursor as resources together and independently edit?
- el_benhameen 1y agoI do this, but with a second monitor and second machine, and then we use git to synchronize our work
- tstenner 1y agoWith VS Code and IntelliJ you can even do it in the same documents at the same time
- godelski 1y agoJust a reminder for everyone, you can do this with tmux. So you could even just sit next to each other (or not) and be on your own machines.
- karmakaze 1y agoI usually prefer to be navigator than driver. It's the navigator that does the high level thinking. The one at the keyboard is the one who's usually better at typing and writing out the design patterns that are agreed upon. Of course we did swap roles routinely, maybe several times a day. Oh and to top it off we switched pairing partners every week or two. It was a brutal experiment but I learned a lot and I'd say it was a great success.
- saagarjha 1y agoI find that working with people who are smarter than I am helps a lot with this.
- karmakaze 1y agoIt works both ways. Even for the 'smarter' person, they have to form their ideas clearly in order to communicate it to be understood. By themselves they could just start writing random classes that feel like they might be part of the solution and get themselves in corners more often.
- exe34 1y agofor me it's not that I think faster, it's just that I will check 10 things really fast and exclude the "no it can't be there" things - because that's usually where it is. So if somebody else is holding the mouse and keyboard, I would then have to convince them that these things that they are convinced are fine need checking. I really hate this work of convincing them, because it's much faster to check it first and explain why it was a good idea later once I've fixed the problem.
- globular-toast 1y agoI find the less dominant person just switches off, stops thinking and just becomes a keyboard with about 20x the latency and 10% the speed and accuracy.