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They had, and still have, an immense first mover advantage in the internals of EVs - look at some of the mechanic analyses/teardowns of Tesla internals and it's

They had, and still have, an immense first mover advantage in the internals of EVs - look at some of the mechanic analyses/teardowns of Tesla internals and it's a night-and-day difference against other US EVs in terms of engineering around reliability, simplicity, and efficiency. But, they never actually followed that up with truly improving the the vehicle interior and all the other bits of build quality, and then doubled down with the Cybertruck, which has brilliant internals wrapped in bodywork that's impossible to clean and with trim that will literally fall off in the wrong weather.

dchftcs 1y ago
One drawback cited consistently about Tesla cars is poor suspension. They may or may not have better design overall, and have better EV manufacturing than US competitors, but I don't see an "immense advantage" when they fail to address one of the things many users easily feel.
- kcb 1y ago
  That was addressed with the Model 3 and Y updates.
- rrrrrrrrrrrryan 1y ago
  There's also so much road noise. They designed the car bodies to be light for battery-related reasons, but in doing so, the cabins of even their luxury cars sound like budget economy vehicles.
  - dchftcs 1y ago
    Also one way Chinese EVs combat their efficiency disadvantage is fast charging and large batteries, and the charging cost is so negligible anyway that largely the user experience has been the same. Tesla has very little first mover advantage left against Chinese EVs, if any. It's sad that other Europe and US manufacturers haven't been able to be competitive, and probably Ford and GM will never be competitive because of protectionism.
kcb 1y ago
> But, they never actually followed that up with truly improving the the vehicle interior and all the other bits of build quality, But that's exactly what they've done with the latest Model 3 and Y updates.
- heod749 1y ago
  > But that's exactly what they've done with the latest Model 3 and Y updates. Still waiting for 2026 Juniper Model Y to implement any of the following: - leather interior - metal and wood trim options - heads up display - power sunshades - cream/brown interior color - rear ventilated seats But I guess “ambient lighting” is ground breaking technology since it was not implemented in 2025 model Y.

dchftcs 1y ago

One drawback cited consistently about Tesla cars is poor suspension. They may or may not have better design overall, and have better EV manufacturing than US competitors, but I don't see an "immense advantage" when they fail to address one of the things many users easily feel.

kcb 1y ago
That was addressed with the Model 3 and Y updates.
rrrrrrrrrrrryan 1y ago
There's also so much road noise. They designed the car bodies to be light for battery-related reasons, but in doing so, the cabins of even their luxury cars sound like budget economy vehicles.
- dchftcs 1y ago
  Also one way Chinese EVs combat their efficiency disadvantage is fast charging and large batteries, and the charging cost is so negligible anyway that largely the user experience has been the same. Tesla has very little first mover advantage left against Chinese EVs, if any. It's sad that other Europe and US manufacturers haven't been able to be competitive, and probably Ford and GM will never be competitive because of protectionism.

kcb 1y ago

> But, they never actually followed that up with truly improving the the vehicle interior and all the other bits of build quality, But that's exactly what they've done with the latest Model 3 and Y updates.

heod749 1y ago
> But that's exactly what they've done with the latest Model 3 and Y updates. Still waiting for 2026 Juniper Model Y to implement any of the following: - leather interior - metal and wood trim options - heads up display - power sunshades - cream/brown interior color - rear ventilated seats But I guess “ambient lighting” is ground breaking technology since it was not implemented in 2025 model Y.