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I have no idea how many subpoenas Google gets per day but my guess is that they get a fair bit of them. I also don't know how they respond to them but I'd wager
by nickb 18y ago
I have no idea how many subpoenas Google gets per day but my guess is that they get a fair bit of them. I also don't know how they respond to them but I'd wager that they comply with vast majority of them. What I'd like to know is how Google deals with out-of-US subpoenas. Do they comply?
I think you could argue that, due to Google File System's (GFS) distributed nature, you could request a subpoena from a local judge in any country in which Google has a data center because Google would have to prove that a chunk of data belonging to someone is not hosted in that country. That's very hard ot disprove since I doubt that Google keeps historical track of their chunks. The way GFS works, a master keeps tracks of chunks but it doesn't keep a history of where each chunk was. So a clever lawyer could try to subpoena anyone's account given that Google has a data center in their country.
For example, Google has a data center in UK. Could US person's account, be subjected to a UK issued subpoena if a lawyer uses the logic I described above? Maybe.. there's no way to prove that a chunk of your data is not hosted in UK.
Distributed systems ("cloud") are a privacy nightmare waiting to happen, and I think that EU privacy commission will tackle this issue at some point. "Cloud" computing seems to be illegal (to a certain degree, in strong-privacy countries like Germany).
More info here: http://www.jroller.com/MasterMark/entry/google_teh_evil_cloud_economics http://www.jroller.com/MasterMark/entry/google_teh_evil_clou...
- andreyf 18y agoDistributed systems ("cloud") are a privacy nightmare waiting to happen... A lot of technological advances are "nightmares waiting to happen" before the proper legal systems are in place. This is a problem with privacy laws, not with Google's technology.
- nickb 18y ago"... before the proper legal systems are in place." And how long do you think it will take for all the countries in the world to adopt these laws? For now, I'd consider any tech that can run into issues like I described, a problem, and not the laws. Laws should be considered immovable objects since they're open to interpretation and rely on centuries of case law. Laws have already all but killed P2P... and nothing has changed in the past 8 years that will change that and I'd bet against anything changing them in the next decade as well.
- TooMuchNick 18y agoYeah, I heard all about how laws killed P2P on the latest episode of Law & Order I torrented.
- lacker 18y agoYou misunderstand the nature of GFS. A GFS master will not move files between datacenters.