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Both of those examples invalidate and/or endanger people though. For example, repeatedly asking how many genders there are ignores the obvious 'its a continuum

Both of those examples invalidate and/or endanger people though. For example, repeatedly asking how many genders there are ignores the obvious 'its a continuum' and implies its a finite number. The person asking almost always then goes on to push that there's two because that's "how its always been" and then folks can't get gender affirming care are are essentially classified as "nonexistent". The right, being rooted in conservatism, loves to ressurect old arguments in the name of " just asking questions" and have the rest of us redo the battles of old. For example, race science is discredited pseudoscience, there's no need to keep bringing it up unless you're trying to use it for, imo nefarious, political means.

FirmwareBurner 1y ago
So how many genders are there? The answer is simple, it's in all biology books. Any other answer is virtue signaling revisionism.
- hermitcrab 1y ago
  Not a biologist, but my understanding is that gender isn't that simple. As well as XX and XY, you also have XYY, XXY, XXX, intersex, hermaphroditism, chimeraism etc (the last 2 are very rare in humans).
  - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
    Why don't we use the definition based on genitals, that a doctor uses to pronounce you at birth, and not the ultra-rare genetic exceptions?
    - hermitcrab 1y ago
      Intersex is not ultra rare. About 1.7% of people are born intersex and with intersex babies it is sometimes hard to tell what sex they are from the genitals. https://www.ohchr.org/en/sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity/intersex-people https://www.ohchr.org/en/sexual-orientation-and-gender-ident... Also you can have people who develop to look like completely normal adult females, but are actually biologically male. https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/001669.htm https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/001669.htm It's complicated.
      - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
        >About 1.7% of people are born intersex Versus how many people identify as intersex. You'd think it's half the internet based on how religious people are about this topic.

FirmwareBurner 1y ago

So how many genders are there? The answer is simple, it's in all biology books. Any other answer is virtue signaling revisionism.

hermitcrab 1y ago
Not a biologist, but my understanding is that gender isn't that simple. As well as XX and XY, you also have XYY, XXY, XXX, intersex, hermaphroditism, chimeraism etc (the last 2 are very rare in humans).
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago
  Why don't we use the definition based on genitals, that a doctor uses to pronounce you at birth, and not the ultra-rare genetic exceptions?
  - hermitcrab 1y ago
    Intersex is not ultra rare. About 1.7% of people are born intersex and with intersex babies it is sometimes hard to tell what sex they are from the genitals. https://www.ohchr.org/en/sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity/intersex-people https://www.ohchr.org/en/sexual-orientation-and-gender-ident... Also you can have people who develop to look like completely normal adult females, but are actually biologically male. https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/001669.htm https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/001669.htm It's complicated.
    - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
      >About 1.7% of people are born intersex Versus how many people identify as intersex. You'd think it's half the internet based on how religious people are about this topic.