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Everybody has a desired hierarchy; and you have one too. Own it; fight for it if you can; and recognize someone has to lose.

some_furry 1y ago
Hierarchies are in and of themselves stupid. If you think they exist naturally, you're only looking at one of thousands of independent variables. If you average them out, we all tend towards mediocrity. When someone appeals to hierarchies (e.g., "there's always a bigger fish"), they're just admitting to using a painfully one-dimensional worldview.
- librasteve 1y ago
  strictly speaking a tree requires at least two dimensions
  - tomrod 1y ago
    An infinite tree has a fractional dimension. Ref: p-adics and fractals
dwattttt 1y ago
With no recognition of what harm the desires result in? This is a fast way to all out war. Have you considered finding middle ground and compromises? Or is war the only option?
- immibis 1y ago
  "Let's meet in the middle" says the unjust man. You take a step towards him. He takes a step back. "Let's meet in the middle" says the unjust man.
  - ethersteeds 1y ago
    Guess it's about time to water the tree of liberty again.
  - majorchord 1y ago
    False equivalence... the "unjust" man is actually the one constantly keeping "the middle" right where it belongs... in the middle. There has to be a give AND a take if there's going to be a middle at all.
    - immibis 1y ago
      "I am actually the one constantly keeping the middle right where it belongs... in the middle. There has to be a give and a take if there's going to be a middle at all." says the unjust man. You take a step towards him. He takes a step back. "I am actually the one constantly keeping the middle right where it belongs... in the middle. There has to be a give and a take if there's going to be a middle at all." says the unjust man.
MostlyStable 1y ago
This view is the antithesis of the entire, pluralistic, classical liberal project that this country was founded on. Everybody has a hierarchy, and people should, for the most part, be allowed to choose their own hierarchy. The problem isn't that someone dislikes porn or whatever, it's that they try and force it on the rest of us.
UncleMeat 1y ago
Of course. I think that theirs is horrible. I'm not saying that having a preferred way of ordering society is bad. I am saying that oppressing LGBT people is bad.

some_furry 1y ago

Hierarchies are in and of themselves stupid. If you think they exist naturally, you're only looking at one of thousands of independent variables. If you average them out, we all tend towards mediocrity. When someone appeals to hierarchies (e.g., "there's always a bigger fish"), they're just admitting to using a painfully one-dimensional worldview.

librasteve 1y ago
strictly speaking a tree requires at least two dimensions
- tomrod 1y ago
  An infinite tree has a fractional dimension. Ref: p-adics and fractals

dwattttt 1y ago

With no recognition of what harm the desires result in? This is a fast way to all out war. Have you considered finding middle ground and compromises? Or is war the only option?

immibis 1y ago
"Let's meet in the middle" says the unjust man. You take a step towards him. He takes a step back. "Let's meet in the middle" says the unjust man.
- ethersteeds 1y ago
  Guess it's about time to water the tree of liberty again.
- majorchord 1y ago
  False equivalence... the "unjust" man is actually the one constantly keeping "the middle" right where it belongs... in the middle. There has to be a give AND a take if there's going to be a middle at all.
  - immibis 1y ago
    "I am actually the one constantly keeping the middle right where it belongs... in the middle. There has to be a give and a take if there's going to be a middle at all." says the unjust man. You take a step towards him. He takes a step back. "I am actually the one constantly keeping the middle right where it belongs... in the middle. There has to be a give and a take if there's going to be a middle at all." says the unjust man.

MostlyStable 1y ago

This view is the antithesis of the entire, pluralistic, classical liberal project that this country was founded on. Everybody has a hierarchy, and people should, for the most part, be allowed to choose their own hierarchy. The problem isn't that someone dislikes porn or whatever, it's that they try and force it on the rest of us.

UncleMeat 1y ago

Of course. I think that theirs is horrible. I'm not saying that having a preferred way of ordering society is bad. I am saying that oppressing LGBT people is bad.