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When it comes to cheating, perfect is the enemy of good. This is one of those rare cases where the phrase doesn’t hold. The problem is that server-side occlusi

When it comes to cheating, perfect is the enemy of good. This is one of those rare cases where the phrase doesn’t hold. The problem is that server-side occlusion is only a small piece of the puzzle. A naïve implementation means hundreds of thousands of raycasts per second, which doesn’t scale. Real engines rely on precomputed visibility sets, spatial partitioning, and still have to leak some data client-side for responsiveness. Basically - the kernel level check is not laziness, but for unsolvable problems without huge compute costs or latency.

dvdkon 1y ago
Fine, then let's not bother with anti-cheat at all, since an aimbot can work by just filming the screen and sending HID events over USB. Anti-cheat is like DRM: You have to make do with a compromise. Hundreds of thousands of raycasts per second sounds doable to me, but couldn't you just use a GPU and some simplified level geometry? That ought to scale well enough. It's not free or perfect (knowing the position of a hand a cheat will be able to estimate where the head is anyway), but that's not the goal, right?
- whatevaa 1y ago
  There is a video of DYI aimbot of using a camera and sending electrical impulses into his arm to make him do certain adjustments. It's a bit hit and miss but seems refineable. It's cat and mouse game.
  - pxc 1y ago
    Is cyborg doping even cheating? At least at this stage it's still high effort and DIY. That almost makes it legitimate to me
    - internetter 1y ago
      many sport communities call doping cheating
      - pxc 1y ago
        and that's reasonable! but it's not a given. It's different from other kinds of cheating and some of its motivations are unusual when it comes to cheating restrictions (e.g., long-term health of players)
  - dpoloncsak 1y ago
    This is probably the video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-EbjGSRyKA&pp=ygUZYmFzaWNhbGx5IGhvbWVsZXNzIGFpbWJvdA%3D%3D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-EbjGSRyKA&pp=ygUZYmFzaWNhb... BasicallyHomeless has made it his life mission to eradicate cheating in video games.

dvdkon 1y ago

Fine, then let's not bother with anti-cheat at all, since an aimbot can work by just filming the screen and sending HID events over USB. Anti-cheat is like DRM: You have to make do with a compromise. Hundreds of thousands of raycasts per second sounds doable to me, but couldn't you just use a GPU and some simplified level geometry? That ought to scale well enough. It's not free or perfect (knowing the position of a hand a cheat will be able to estimate where the head is anyway), but that's not the goal, right?

whatevaa 1y ago
There is a video of DYI aimbot of using a camera and sending electrical impulses into his arm to make him do certain adjustments. It's a bit hit and miss but seems refineable. It's cat and mouse game.
- pxc 1y ago
  Is cyborg doping even cheating? At least at this stage it's still high effort and DIY. That almost makes it legitimate to me
  - internetter 1y ago
    many sport communities call doping cheating
    - pxc 1y ago
      and that's reasonable! but it's not a given. It's different from other kinds of cheating and some of its motivations are unusual when it comes to cheating restrictions (e.g., long-term health of players)
- dpoloncsak 1y ago
  This is probably the video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-EbjGSRyKA&pp=ygUZYmFzaWNhbGx5IGhvbWVsZXNzIGFpbWJvdA%3D%3D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-EbjGSRyKA&pp=ygUZYmFzaWNhb... BasicallyHomeless has made it his life mission to eradicate cheating in video games.