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>> could you imagine the audacity of actually not driving into an intersection when the light is yellow and you know you're going to block the crossing traffic?

>> could you imagine the audacity of actually not driving into an intersection when the light is yellow and you know you're going to block the crossing traffic? I wonder how many Waymos following the rules would be needed to reduce gridlock.

darth_avocado 1y ago
Waymo in SF pretty much drives like a human, and that includes doing human things like cutting lanes, stopping wherever it feels like, driving in the bus lane etc. I think it’ll be fine in NYC
- kingkawn 1y ago
  SF traffic is but a single speck of nyc
  - Grazester 1y ago
    Traffic? The issue half the time in NYC is the drivers. I can't compare it to SF since I haven't been there in a while but I still thought it was not as congested to compared to NYC. NYC has a greater population and also has a greater number of registered cars compare to SF however.
    - cj 1y ago
      As a comparison, I feel safe riding a motorcycle in SF. I don’t think I would ever ride a motorcycle in NYC. Riding safely requires predicting what the cars around you are about to do. I find it an order of magnitude harder to predict driver behavior in NYC.
- kenhwang 1y ago
  Waymo in LA also drives pretty much like a human here would, which includes: not yielding for pedestrian-only crosswalks, running red lights, driving in the oncoming traffic/suicide/bike lane, occupying two lanes, blocking entrances/driveways/intersections, and stopping/parking in no-stop/parking curbs. They're only really phenomenal at not hitting things; they really aren't good/courteous/predictable drivers under most conventional definitions. Still, I think rollout in NYC will be fine. NYC generally drives slower and much less aggressively than LA, and slower gives the Waymo plenty of reaction time to not hit things.
  - esalman 1y ago
    I can attest to that. I live in Orange county and occasionally see Waymos when I go to LA, and they'll do things like merging with very little gap or merging in the middle of interactions.
eldaisfish 1y ago
the solution to traffic is transit, not computers driving cars.

darth_avocado 1y ago

Waymo in SF pretty much drives like a human, and that includes doing human things like cutting lanes, stopping wherever it feels like, driving in the bus lane etc. I think it’ll be fine in NYC

kingkawn 1y ago
SF traffic is but a single speck of nyc
- Grazester 1y ago
  Traffic? The issue half the time in NYC is the drivers. I can't compare it to SF since I haven't been there in a while but I still thought it was not as congested to compared to NYC. NYC has a greater population and also has a greater number of registered cars compare to SF however.
  - cj 1y ago
    As a comparison, I feel safe riding a motorcycle in SF. I don’t think I would ever ride a motorcycle in NYC. Riding safely requires predicting what the cars around you are about to do. I find it an order of magnitude harder to predict driver behavior in NYC.
kenhwang 1y ago
Waymo in LA also drives pretty much like a human here would, which includes: not yielding for pedestrian-only crosswalks, running red lights, driving in the oncoming traffic/suicide/bike lane, occupying two lanes, blocking entrances/driveways/intersections, and stopping/parking in no-stop/parking curbs. They're only really phenomenal at not hitting things; they really aren't good/courteous/predictable drivers under most conventional definitions. Still, I think rollout in NYC will be fine. NYC generally drives slower and much less aggressively than LA, and slower gives the Waymo plenty of reaction time to not hit things.
- esalman 1y ago
  I can attest to that. I live in Orange county and occasionally see Waymos when I go to LA, and they'll do things like merging with very little gap or merging in the middle of interactions.

eldaisfish 1y ago

the solution to traffic is transit, not computers driving cars.