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I am still waiting for the announced redesign in 2022 [0] :-) [0]: https://www.omglinux.com/major-thunderbird-redesign-early-look/ https://www.omglinux.com/maj

by nik736 1y ago

I am still waiting for the announced redesign in 2022 [0] :-) [0]: https://www.omglinux.com/major-thunderbird-redesign-early-look/ https://www.omglinux.com/major-thunderbird-redesign-early-lo...

lol768 1y ago
It's such a shame that what was shipped there was so far off what the designs had suggested might be possible [1] Two years ago we were told: > We're going to build it right, and that means rewriting large pieces of our codebase. We'll ship the remaining stuff when they are ready. I'm not sure how much more of the designs have actually been realised since then? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36664515 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36664515
andrepd 1y ago
> No menus > Cryptic icons with no text > Optimised for looking good on a screenshot and not for actual user interaction No thanks :)
- mixmastamyk 1y ago
  Indeed, and 16:9 monitors are passé already.
- bee_rider 1y ago
  Someone should really make a UI where three black lines is a skewmorphic grippy surface (like you see on steps sometimes) to move the window around, just to mess with the hamburger menu devotees.
jacobgkau 1y ago
It's mostly already available, just not the default: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/08/make-thunderbird-yours-how-to-get-the-thunderbird-115-supernova-look/ https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/08/make-thunderbird-yours-... I followed the steps in that blog post and was able to mostly get there. I have a bit less padding between folders than the mock-up showed (which seems like a theme thing rather than a configuration item), and I don't have profile pictures in the message list.
rollcat 1y ago
I really wish we could make uniformity a trend again. GTK has basically made it a rule that applications must do whatever the heck they want. Then next day I'm using Inkscape on a Mac. Cmd-A on the canvas selects all elements. Cmd-A in a text field selects all elements on the canvas - and whatever text was in the field, now applies to the selection, so I start typing and instantly get garbage. How do you Select All in a text field? Ctrl-A of course! - On the only system that has a non-broken copy/paste in the terminal. I guess props to Thunderbird for leaving some space on the title bar to drag the window around? Do not take it for granted.
- jraph 1y ago
  Thunderbird is technically rendered with GTK on Linux, but is mostly written using web tech. They are mostly not GTK, I'm don't think GTK is even involved on Windows for instance (don't know about Mac). For this reason, I doubt they will follow everything gtk Gnome does.

by nik736 1y ago

I am still waiting for the announced redesign in 2022 [0] :-) [0]: https://www.omglinux.com/major-thunderbird-redesign-early-look/ https://www.omglinux.com/major-thunderbird-redesign-early-lo...

lol768 1y ago

It's such a shame that what was shipped there was so far off what the designs had suggested might be possible [1] Two years ago we were told: > We're going to build it right, and that means rewriting large pieces of our codebase. We'll ship the remaining stuff when they are ready. I'm not sure how much more of the designs have actually been realised since then? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36664515 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36664515

andrepd 1y ago

> No menus > Cryptic icons with no text > Optimised for looking good on a screenshot and not for actual user interaction No thanks :)

mixmastamyk 1y ago
Indeed, and 16:9 monitors are passé already.
bee_rider 1y ago
Someone should really make a UI where three black lines is a skewmorphic grippy surface (like you see on steps sometimes) to move the window around, just to mess with the hamburger menu devotees.

jacobgkau 1y ago

It's mostly already available, just not the default: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/08/make-thunderbird-yours-how-to-get-the-thunderbird-115-supernova-look/ https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/08/make-thunderbird-yours-... I followed the steps in that blog post and was able to mostly get there. I have a bit less padding between folders than the mock-up showed (which seems like a theme thing rather than a configuration item), and I don't have profile pictures in the message list.

rollcat 1y ago

I really wish we could make uniformity a trend again. GTK has basically made it a rule that applications must do whatever the heck they want. Then next day I'm using Inkscape on a Mac. Cmd-A on the canvas selects all elements. Cmd-A in a text field selects all elements on the canvas - and whatever text was in the field, now applies to the selection, so I start typing and instantly get garbage. How do you Select All in a text field? Ctrl-A of course! - On the only system that has a non-broken copy/paste in the terminal. I guess props to Thunderbird for leaving some space on the title bar to drag the window around? Do not take it for granted.

jraph 1y ago
Thunderbird is technically rendered with GTK on Linux, but is mostly written using web tech. They are mostly not GTK, I'm don't think GTK is even involved on Windows for instance (don't know about Mac). For this reason, I doubt they will follow everything gtk Gnome does.