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Years ago Quillette claimed to have objective factual proof that Conservatives were being oppressed on Twitter with a data-driven approach. Alright, sounds good

by arp242 1y ago

Years ago Quillette claimed to have objective factual proof that Conservatives were being oppressed on Twitter with a data-driven approach. Alright, sounds good, so let's take a look. And ... their data includes shining examples of conservatism such as the American Nazi Party. It continues with more upstanding citizens such as David Duke, Richard Spencer, and similar. Such poor oppressed conservatives.

mellosouls 1y ago
I did a quick fact-check on your post here by googling quillette twitter cancel These are among the first articles that come up and note that none of them are Nazis, just people bucking the weird dictats of what was allowed to be said at the time. Twitter's Trans-Activist Decree https://quillette.com/2018/11/28/twitters-trans-activist-decree/ https://quillette.com/2018/11/28/twitters-trans-activist-dec... Ending Discrimination by Twitter https://quillette.com/2022/11/28/ending-discrimination-on-twitter/ https://quillette.com/2022/11/28/ending-discrimination-on-tw... Why I'm Suing Twitter https://quillette.com/2019/02/26/why-im-suing-twitter/ https://quillette.com/2019/02/26/why-im-suing-twitter/ Think Cancel Culture Doesn’t Exist? My Own ‘Lived Experience’ Says Otherwise https://quillette.com/2020/07/30/think-cancel-culture-doesnt-exist-my-own-lived-experience-says-otherwise/ https://quillette.com/2020/07/30/think-cancel-culture-doesnt...
- arp242 1y ago
  https://quillette.com/2019/02/12/it-isnt-your-imagination-twitter-treats-conservatives-more-harshly-than-liberals/ https://quillette.com/2019/02/12/it-isnt-your-imagination-tw... https://web.archive.org/web/20230118212512/https://www.richardhanania.com/data https://web.archive.org/web/20230118212512/https://www.richa... https://web.archive.org/web/20220628153148/https://f621cf77-65f8-454c-b13c-31da5d0e9ffe.filesusr.com/ugd/88a74d_d231bdbfb13c4b9ab7742204fa736d29.xlsx?dn=Censorship%2C+Data.2.14.19.xlsx https://web.archive.org/web/20220628153148/https://f621cf77-... Didn't have it bookmarked; really didn't take that long to find it because it's literally the first search result: https://imgur.com/a/FZQ1D7b https://imgur.com/a/FZQ1D7b That you simply repeat talking points in your "fact check" says a lot.
  - mellosouls 1y ago
    I read your link and it describes the suppression of conservative voices while far left voices posting genuine messages of hate were supported. Surely you read your own link before posting it? I've additionally given you several examples which counter your original claim that it's basically just Nazis whining about being cancelled, which you've dismissed flippantly. This is a serious subject; if you can't address it in good faith I will leave it at that.
    - arp242 1y ago
      You really think this is a full comprehensive list of everyone that was banned, or that it's a highly cherry-picked list of examples? At the time people pointed out it missed many prominent left-wing bans that were excluded, but I can't be bothered to search for that now. And maybe some more left-wing accounts should have been banned too; I don't know. I never claimed anything about this. I said that Quillette published an article that considered the American Nazi Party and similar far-right explicit Nazis and KKK members as "conservatives" that were being banned. It's really not that hard to say "yeah, the American Nazi party probably should have been banned, it was a mistake to include that on that data-driven approach, as was the inclusion of David Duke and Richard Spencer".

by arp242 1y ago

mellosouls 1y ago

I did a quick fact-check on your post here by googling quillette twitter cancel These are among the first articles that come up and note that none of them are Nazis, just people bucking the weird dictats of what was allowed to be said at the time. Twitter's Trans-Activist Decree https://quillette.com/2018/11/28/twitters-trans-activist-decree/ https://quillette.com/2018/11/28/twitters-trans-activist-dec... Ending Discrimination by Twitter https://quillette.com/2022/11/28/ending-discrimination-on-twitter/ https://quillette.com/2022/11/28/ending-discrimination-on-tw... Why I'm Suing Twitter https://quillette.com/2019/02/26/why-im-suing-twitter/ https://quillette.com/2019/02/26/why-im-suing-twitter/ Think Cancel Culture Doesn’t Exist? My Own ‘Lived Experience’ Says Otherwise https://quillette.com/2020/07/30/think-cancel-culture-doesnt-exist-my-own-lived-experience-says-otherwise/ https://quillette.com/2020/07/30/think-cancel-culture-doesnt...

arp242 1y ago
https://quillette.com/2019/02/12/it-isnt-your-imagination-twitter-treats-conservatives-more-harshly-than-liberals/ https://quillette.com/2019/02/12/it-isnt-your-imagination-tw... https://web.archive.org/web/20230118212512/https://www.richardhanania.com/data https://web.archive.org/web/20230118212512/https://www.richa... https://web.archive.org/web/20220628153148/https://f621cf77-65f8-454c-b13c-31da5d0e9ffe.filesusr.com/ugd/88a74d_d231bdbfb13c4b9ab7742204fa736d29.xlsx?dn=Censorship%2C+Data.2.14.19.xlsx https://web.archive.org/web/20220628153148/https://f621cf77-... Didn't have it bookmarked; really didn't take that long to find it because it's literally the first search result: https://imgur.com/a/FZQ1D7b https://imgur.com/a/FZQ1D7b That you simply repeat talking points in your "fact check" says a lot.
- mellosouls 1y ago
  I read your link and it describes the suppression of conservative voices while far left voices posting genuine messages of hate were supported. Surely you read your own link before posting it? I've additionally given you several examples which counter your original claim that it's basically just Nazis whining about being cancelled, which you've dismissed flippantly. This is a serious subject; if you can't address it in good faith I will leave it at that.
  - arp242 1y ago
    You really think this is a full comprehensive list of everyone that was banned, or that it's a highly cherry-picked list of examples? At the time people pointed out it missed many prominent left-wing bans that were excluded, but I can't be bothered to search for that now. And maybe some more left-wing accounts should have been banned too; I don't know. I never claimed anything about this. I said that Quillette published an article that considered the American Nazi Party and similar far-right explicit Nazis and KKK members as "conservatives" that were being banned. It's really not that hard to say "yeah, the American Nazi party probably should have been banned, it was a mistake to include that on that data-driven approach, as was the inclusion of David Duke and Richard Spencer".