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In recent years, new leadership at Twitter has made substantive changes that have resulted in increases in the prevalence of pseudoscience, conspiracy theory, a

In recent years, new leadership at Twitter has made substantive changes that have resulted in increases in the prevalence of pseudoscience, conspiracy theory, and harassment on the platform changes to Twitter have made the social media platform no longer professionally useful or pleasant I think we need to be honest that - while there is some truth there - this is the view from elements of the left who were instrumental in suppressing conservative voices and generally making it an unpleasant environment for people who did not subscribe to modish cultural takes under the previous management. The alternative view is of course that for good or ill, freedom of speech is a much higher priority now - which you would think is more in tune with scientific and rational enquiry. None of that is mentioned in the abstract which immediately suggests caution should be taken when evaluating this study.

stubish 1y ago
You are claiming that elements of the left harassed conservative voices on the platform, which agrees completely with the point to are attempting to discredit. The sort of harassment that can only occur by placing a high priority on freedom of speech. It is hard to have a professional discussion with angry people shouting at you, no matter your ideology.
- mellosouls 1y ago
  You are claiming that elements of the left harassed conservative voices on the platform You misquote me. I said "suppressing" not "harassed". I disagree strongly with both, but it is the former that is incompatible with free speech; the latter exploits it.
  - stubish 1y ago
    Suppressing is a form of harassment. The easiest and most common way of suppressing speech is to just keep shouting at an opponent so nobody can hear what they are saying. As discussed in the article, a situation where the platform was unusable for professional discussions due to the noise. Suppressed speech.
tstactplsignore 1y ago
Well, Bluesky is an open-source, algorithmless, decentralizable community platform with crowd sourced opt-in moderation, so it's the place to go for free speech, as opposed to the website run by the guy who bans people who disagree with him, has an AI he wants to rewrite history with, right, and has an algorithm preferentially promote his political views? This is common sense stuff to be honest
- subulation 1y ago
  Bluesky is not the place to go for free speech. The admins ban users from the entire site for a variety of reasons, including disagreement over political viewpoints.
  - otterley 1y ago
    Like what?
  - tstactplsignore 1y ago
    No, you can host your own server, subscribe to your own moderation services. It's a protocol like email.
    - cmxch 1y ago
      Full stack, and ability to opt out of purely ideological filters that are essentially trying to mandate Dorsey Twitter? At least with Mastodon, you weren’t tied as tightly or centrally, such that the worst one can do is balkanize instance groups as opposed to efficient narrative security ops.
danparsonson 1y ago
> None of that is mentioned in the abstract which immediately suggests caution should be taken when evaluating this study. You're entitled to your opinion of course but it's little more than an anecdote and doesn't offer any meaningful counterpoint except, ironically, an admonition for us to 'be honest'.
- mellosouls 1y ago
  This "anecdotal" response gets quite old, where have you been to have missed the years of suppression of non-far-left voices in the 2000s? Anyway, to get you started you can read some of the articles linked in my other response to a Quillette reader: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44985171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44985171
felixgallo 1y ago
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- arp242 1y ago
  Years ago Quillette claimed to have objective factual proof that Conservatives were being oppressed on Twitter with a data-driven approach. Alright, sounds good, so let's take a look. And ... their data includes shining examples of conservatism such as the American Nazi Party. It continues with more upstanding citizens such as David Duke, Richard Spencer, and similar. Such poor oppressed conservatives.
  - mellosouls 1y ago
    I did a quick fact-check on your post here by googling quillette twitter cancel These are among the first articles that come up and note that none of them are Nazis, just people bucking the weird dictats of what was allowed to be said at the time. Twitter's Trans-Activist Decree https://quillette.com/2018/11/28/twitters-trans-activist-decree/ https://quillette.com/2018/11/28/twitters-trans-activist-dec... Ending Discrimination by Twitter https://quillette.com/2022/11/28/ending-discrimination-on-twitter/ https://quillette.com/2022/11/28/ending-discrimination-on-tw... Why I'm Suing Twitter https://quillette.com/2019/02/26/why-im-suing-twitter/ https://quillette.com/2019/02/26/why-im-suing-twitter/ Think Cancel Culture Doesn’t Exist? My Own ‘Lived Experience’ Says Otherwise https://quillette.com/2020/07/30/think-cancel-culture-doesnt-exist-my-own-lived-experience-says-otherwise/ https://quillette.com/2020/07/30/think-cancel-culture-doesnt...
    - arp242 1y ago
      https://quillette.com/2019/02/12/it-isnt-your-imagination-twitter-treats-conservatives-more-harshly-than-liberals/ https://quillette.com/2019/02/12/it-isnt-your-imagination-tw... https://web.archive.org/web/20230118212512/https://www.richardhanania.com/data https://web.archive.org/web/20230118212512/https://www.richa... https://web.archive.org/web/20220628153148/https://f621cf77-65f8-454c-b13c-31da5d0e9ffe.filesusr.com/ugd/88a74d_d231bdbfb13c4b9ab7742204fa736d29.xlsx?dn=Censorship%2C+Data.2.14.19.xlsx https://web.archive.org/web/20220628153148/https://f621cf77-... Didn't have it bookmarked; really didn't take that long to find it because it's literally the first search result: https://imgur.com/a/FZQ1D7b https://imgur.com/a/FZQ1D7b That you simply repeat talking points in your "fact check" says a lot.

stubish 1y ago

You are claiming that elements of the left harassed conservative voices on the platform, which agrees completely with the point to are attempting to discredit. The sort of harassment that can only occur by placing a high priority on freedom of speech. It is hard to have a professional discussion with angry people shouting at you, no matter your ideology.

mellosouls 1y ago
You are claiming that elements of the left harassed conservative voices on the platform You misquote me. I said "suppressing" not "harassed". I disagree strongly with both, but it is the former that is incompatible with free speech; the latter exploits it.
- stubish 1y ago
  Suppressing is a form of harassment. The easiest and most common way of suppressing speech is to just keep shouting at an opponent so nobody can hear what they are saying. As discussed in the article, a situation where the platform was unusable for professional discussions due to the noise. Suppressed speech.

tstactplsignore 1y ago

Well, Bluesky is an open-source, algorithmless, decentralizable community platform with crowd sourced opt-in moderation, so it's the place to go for free speech, as opposed to the website run by the guy who bans people who disagree with him, has an AI he wants to rewrite history with, right, and has an algorithm preferentially promote his political views? This is common sense stuff to be honest

subulation 1y ago
Bluesky is not the place to go for free speech. The admins ban users from the entire site for a variety of reasons, including disagreement over political viewpoints.
- otterley 1y ago
  Like what?
- tstactplsignore 1y ago
  No, you can host your own server, subscribe to your own moderation services. It's a protocol like email.
  - cmxch 1y ago
    Full stack, and ability to opt out of purely ideological filters that are essentially trying to mandate Dorsey Twitter? At least with Mastodon, you weren’t tied as tightly or centrally, such that the worst one can do is balkanize instance groups as opposed to efficient narrative security ops.

danparsonson 1y ago

> None of that is mentioned in the abstract which immediately suggests caution should be taken when evaluating this study. You're entitled to your opinion of course but it's little more than an anecdote and doesn't offer any meaningful counterpoint except, ironically, an admonition for us to 'be honest'.

mellosouls 1y ago
This "anecdotal" response gets quite old, where have you been to have missed the years of suppression of non-far-left voices in the 2000s? Anyway, to get you started you can read some of the articles linked in my other response to a Quillette reader: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44985171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44985171

felixgallo 1y ago

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arp242 1y ago
Years ago Quillette claimed to have objective factual proof that Conservatives were being oppressed on Twitter with a data-driven approach. Alright, sounds good, so let's take a look. And ... their data includes shining examples of conservatism such as the American Nazi Party. It continues with more upstanding citizens such as David Duke, Richard Spencer, and similar. Such poor oppressed conservatives.
- mellosouls 1y ago
  I did a quick fact-check on your post here by googling quillette twitter cancel These are among the first articles that come up and note that none of them are Nazis, just people bucking the weird dictats of what was allowed to be said at the time. Twitter's Trans-Activist Decree https://quillette.com/2018/11/28/twitters-trans-activist-decree/ https://quillette.com/2018/11/28/twitters-trans-activist-dec... Ending Discrimination by Twitter https://quillette.com/2022/11/28/ending-discrimination-on-twitter/ https://quillette.com/2022/11/28/ending-discrimination-on-tw... Why I'm Suing Twitter https://quillette.com/2019/02/26/why-im-suing-twitter/ https://quillette.com/2019/02/26/why-im-suing-twitter/ Think Cancel Culture Doesn’t Exist? My Own ‘Lived Experience’ Says Otherwise https://quillette.com/2020/07/30/think-cancel-culture-doesnt-exist-my-own-lived-experience-says-otherwise/ https://quillette.com/2020/07/30/think-cancel-culture-doesnt...
  - arp242 1y ago
    https://quillette.com/2019/02/12/it-isnt-your-imagination-twitter-treats-conservatives-more-harshly-than-liberals/ https://quillette.com/2019/02/12/it-isnt-your-imagination-tw... https://web.archive.org/web/20230118212512/https://www.richardhanania.com/data https://web.archive.org/web/20230118212512/https://www.richa... https://web.archive.org/web/20220628153148/https://f621cf77-65f8-454c-b13c-31da5d0e9ffe.filesusr.com/ugd/88a74d_d231bdbfb13c4b9ab7742204fa736d29.xlsx?dn=Censorship%2C+Data.2.14.19.xlsx https://web.archive.org/web/20220628153148/https://f621cf77-... Didn't have it bookmarked; really didn't take that long to find it because it's literally the first search result: https://imgur.com/a/FZQ1D7b https://imgur.com/a/FZQ1D7b That you simply repeat talking points in your "fact check" says a lot.