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As if startups before LLMs were creating great code. Right now on the front page, a YC company is offering a “Founding Full Stack Engineer” $100K-$150K. What

As if startups before LLMs were creating great code. Right now on the front page, a YC company is offering a “Founding Full Stack Engineer” $100K-$150K. What quality of code do you think they will end up with? https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/text-ai/jobs/OJBr0v2-founding-full-stack-engineer https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/text-ai/jobs/OJBr0v2-f...

zdragnar 1y ago
Notably, that is a company that... adds AI to group chats. Startups offering crap salaries with a vague promise of equity in a vague product idea with no moat are a dime a dozen, and have been well before LLMs came around.
- JustExAWS 1y ago
  How did they get YC funding? It doesn’t seem like they have even a POC or any technical employees.
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  - cde-v 1y ago
    Have you seen the companies YC has been funding recently? All you need to do is mention AI and YC will throw some money your way. I don't know if you saw my first attempt at a post, but someone should suggest AI for HN comment formatting and I'm sure it will be funded. Acrely — AI for HVAC administration Aden — AI for ERP operations AgentHub — AI for agent simulation and evaluation Agentin AI — AI for enterprise agents AgentMail — AI for agent email infrastructure AlphaWatch AI — AI for financial search Alter — AI for secure agent workflow access control Altur — AI for debt collection voice agents Ambral — AI for account management Anytrace — AI for support engineering April — AI for voice executive assistants AutoComputer — AI for robotic desktop automation Autosana — AI for mobile QA Autotab — AI for knowledge work Avent — AI for industrial commerce b-12 — AI for chemical intelligence Bluebirds — AI for outbound targeting burnt — AI for food supply chain operations Cactus — AI for smartphone model deployment Candytrail — AI for sales funnel automation CareSwift — AI for ambulance operations Certus AI — AI for restaurant phone lines Clarm — AI for search and agent building Clodo — AI for real estate CRMs Closera — AI for commercial real estate employees Clueso — AI for instructional content generation cocreate — AI for video editing Comena — AI for order automation in distribution ContextFort — AI for construction drawing reviews Convexia — AI for pharma drug discovery Credal.ai — AI for enterprise workflow assistants CTGT — AI for preventing hallucinations Cyberdesk — AI for legacy desktop automation datafruit — AI for DevOps engineering Daymi — AI for personal clones DeepAware AI — AI for data center efficiency Defog.ai — AI for natural-language data queries Design Arena — AI for design benchmarks Doe — AI for autonomous private equity workforce Double – Coding Copilot — AI for coding assistance EffiGov — AI for local government call centers Eloquent AI — AI for complex financial workflows F4 — AI for compliance in engineering drawings Finto — AI for enterprise accounting Flai — AI for dealership customer acquisition Floot — AI for app building Fluidize — AI for scientific experiments Flywheel AI — AI for excavator autonomy Freya — AI for financial services voice agents Frizzle — AI for teacher grading Galini — AI guardrails as a service Gaus — AI for retail investors Ghostship — AI for UX bug detection Golpo — AI for video generation from documents Halluminate — AI for training computer use HealthKey — AI for clinical trial matching Hera — AI for motion design Humoniq — AI for BPO in travel and transport Hyprnote — AI for enterprise notetaking Imprezia — AI for ad networks Induction Labs — AI for computer use automation iollo — AI for multimodal biological data Iron Grid — AI for hardware insurance IronLedger.ai — AI for property accounting Janet AI — AI for project management (AI-native Jira) Kernel — AI for web agent browsing infrastructure Kestroll — AI for media asset management Keystone — AI for software engineering Knowlify — AI for explainer video creation Kyber — AI for regulatory notice drafting Lanesurf — AI for freight booking voice automation Lantern — AI for Postgres application development Lark — AI for billing operations Latent — AI for medical language models Lemma — AI for consumer brand insights Linkana — AI for supplier onboarding reviews Liva AI — AI for video and voice data labeling Locata — AI for healthcare referral management Lopus AI — AI for deal intelligence Lotas — AI for data science IDEs Louiza Labs — AI for synthetic biology data Luminai — AI for business process automation Magnetic — AI for tax preparation MangoDesk — AI for evaluation data Maven Bio — AI for BioPharma insights Meteor — AI for web browsing (AI-native browser) Mimos — AI for regulated firm visibility in search Minimal AI — AI for e-commerce customer support Mobile Operator — AI for mobile QA Mohi — AI for workflow clarity Monarcha — AI for GIS platforms moonrepo — AI for developer workflow tooling Motives — AI for consumer research Nautilus — AI for car wash optimization NOSO LABS — AI for field technician support Nottelabs — AI for enterprise web agents Novaflow — AI for biology lab analytics Nozomio — AI for contextual coding agents Oki — AI for company intelligence Okibi — AI for agent building Omnara — AI for agent command centers OnDeck AI — AI for video analysis Onyx — AI for generative platform development Opennote — AI for note-based tutoring Opslane — AI for ETL data pipelines Orange Slice — AI for sales lead generation Outlit — AI for quoting and proposals Outrove — AI for Salesforce Pally — AI for relationship management Paloma — AI for billing CRMs Parachute — AI for clinical evaluation and deployment PARES AI — AI for commercial real estate brokers People.ai — AI for enterprise growth insights Perspectives Health — AI for clinic EMRs Pharmie AI — AI for pharmacy technicians Phases — AI for clinical trial automation Pingo AI — AI for language learning companions Pleom — AI for conversational interaction Qualify.bot — AI for commercial lending phone agents Reacher — AI for creator collaboration marketing Ridecell — AI for fleet operations Risely AI — AI for campus administration Risotto — AI for IT helpdesk automation Riverbank Security — AI for offensive security Saphira AI — AI for certification automation Sendbird — AI for omnichannel agents Sentinel — AI for on-call engineering Serafis — AI for institutional investor knowledge graphs Sigmantic AI — AI for HDL design Sira — AI for HR management of hourly teams Socratix AI — AI for fraud and risk teams Solva — AI for insurance Spotlight Realty — AI for real estate brokerage StackAI — AI for low-code agent platforms stagewise — AI for frontend coding agents Stellon Labs — AI for edge device models Stockline — AI for food wholesaler ERP Stormy AI — AI for influencer marketing Synthetic Society — AI for simulating real users SynthioLabs — AI for medical expertise in pharma Tailor — AI for retail ERP automation Tecto AI — AI for governance of AI employees Tesora — AI for procurement analysis Trace — AI for workflow automation TraceRoot.AI — AI for automated bug fixing truthsystems — AI for regulated governance layers Uplift AI — AI for underserved voice languages Veles — AI for dynamic sales pricing Veritus Agent — AI for loan servicing and collections Verne Robotics — AI for robotic arms VoiceOS — AI for voice interviews VoxOps AI — AI for regulated industry calls Vulcan Technologies — AI for regulatory drafting Waydev — AI for engineering leadership insights Wayline — AI for property management voice automation Wedge — AI for healthcare trust layers Workflow86 — AI for workflow automation ZeroEval — AI for agent evaluation and optimization
    - jamiek88 1y ago
      Oh my god, this hilariously looks like it could have been LLM generated itself!
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      - JustExAWS 1y ago
        And the ideas may or may not be bad. I don’t know enough about any of the business segments. But to paraphrase the famous Steve Jobs quote “those aren’t businesses, they are features” [1] that a company that is already in the business should be able to throw a few halfway decent engineers at and add the feature to an existing product with real users. [1] He said that about Dropbox. He wasn’t wrong just premature. For the price of 2TB on Dropbox, you can get the entire GSuite with 2TB or Office365 with 1TB for up to five users for 5TB in all.
        fragmede 1y ago
        now you can, but, what, are you gonna lie down and wait for tech giants to do everything? Not every company needs to be Apple. If Dropbox filed for bankruptcy tomorrow, they've still made millionaires of thousands of people and given jobs to hundreds more, and enabled people to share their files online. Steve Jobs gets to call other companies small because Apple is huge, but there are thousands of companies that "are just features". Yeah, features they forgot to add! Apple still doesn't make cases for their phones.
        JustExAWS 1y ago
        Out of the literally thousands of companies that YC has invested in, only about a dozen have gone public, the rest are either dead, zombies or got acquired. These are all acquisition plays. Even the ones that have gone public haven’t done that well in aggregate. https://medium.com/@kazeemibrahim18/the-post-ipo-performance-of-y-combinator-companies-a-mixed-bag-of-success-and-struggle-58e9a4006f01 https://medium.com/@kazeemibrahim18/the-post-ipo-performance... Dropbox was solving a hard infrastructure problem at scale. These companies are just making some API calls to a model. If an established company in any of these verticals - not necessarily BigTech - see an opportunity, they are either going to throw a few engineers at the problem and add it as a feature or hire a company like the one I work for and we are going to knock out an implementation in a few months. The one YC company I mentioned above is expecting to have their product written by one “full stack engineer” that they are only willing to pay $150K for. How difficult can it be?

zdragnar 1y ago

Notably, that is a company that... adds AI to group chats. Startups offering crap salaries with a vague promise of equity in a vague product idea with no moat are a dime a dozen, and have been well before LLMs came around.

JustExAWS 1y ago
How did they get YC funding? It doesn’t seem like they have even a POC or any technical employees.
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- cde-v 1y ago
  Have you seen the companies YC has been funding recently? All you need to do is mention AI and YC will throw some money your way. I don't know if you saw my first attempt at a post, but someone should suggest AI for HN comment formatting and I'm sure it will be funded. Acrely — AI for HVAC administration Aden — AI for ERP operations AgentHub — AI for agent simulation and evaluation Agentin AI — AI for enterprise agents AgentMail — AI for agent email infrastructure AlphaWatch AI — AI for financial search Alter — AI for secure agent workflow access control Altur — AI for debt collection voice agents Ambral — AI for account management Anytrace — AI for support engineering April — AI for voice executive assistants AutoComputer — AI for robotic desktop automation Autosana — AI for mobile QA Autotab — AI for knowledge work Avent — AI for industrial commerce b-12 — AI for chemical intelligence Bluebirds — AI for outbound targeting burnt — AI for food supply chain operations Cactus — AI for smartphone model deployment Candytrail — AI for sales funnel automation CareSwift — AI for ambulance operations Certus AI — AI for restaurant phone lines Clarm — AI for search and agent building Clodo — AI for real estate CRMs Closera — AI for commercial real estate employees Clueso — AI for instructional content generation cocreate — AI for video editing Comena — AI for order automation in distribution ContextFort — AI for construction drawing reviews Convexia — AI for pharma drug discovery Credal.ai — AI for enterprise workflow assistants CTGT — AI for preventing hallucinations Cyberdesk — AI for legacy desktop automation datafruit — AI for DevOps engineering Daymi — AI for personal clones DeepAware AI — AI for data center efficiency Defog.ai — AI for natural-language data queries Design Arena — AI for design benchmarks Doe — AI for autonomous private equity workforce Double – Coding Copilot — AI for coding assistance EffiGov — AI for local government call centers Eloquent AI — AI for complex financial workflows F4 — AI for compliance in engineering drawings Finto — AI for enterprise accounting Flai — AI for dealership customer acquisition Floot — AI for app building Fluidize — AI for scientific experiments Flywheel AI — AI for excavator autonomy Freya — AI for financial services voice agents Frizzle — AI for teacher grading Galini — AI guardrails as a service Gaus — AI for retail investors Ghostship — AI for UX bug detection Golpo — AI for video generation from documents Halluminate — AI for training computer use HealthKey — AI for clinical trial matching Hera — AI for motion design Humoniq — AI for BPO in travel and transport Hyprnote — AI for enterprise notetaking Imprezia — AI for ad networks Induction Labs — AI for computer use automation iollo — AI for multimodal biological data Iron Grid — AI for hardware insurance IronLedger.ai — AI for property accounting Janet AI — AI for project management (AI-native Jira) Kernel — AI for web agent browsing infrastructure Kestroll — AI for media asset management Keystone — AI for software engineering Knowlify — AI for explainer video creation Kyber — AI for regulatory notice drafting Lanesurf — AI for freight booking voice automation Lantern — AI for Postgres application development Lark — AI for billing operations Latent — AI for medical language models Lemma — AI for consumer brand insights Linkana — AI for supplier onboarding reviews Liva AI — AI for video and voice data labeling Locata — AI for healthcare referral management Lopus AI — AI for deal intelligence Lotas — AI for data science IDEs Louiza Labs — AI for synthetic biology data Luminai — AI for business process automation Magnetic — AI for tax preparation MangoDesk — AI for evaluation data Maven Bio — AI for BioPharma insights Meteor — AI for web browsing (AI-native browser) Mimos — AI for regulated firm visibility in search Minimal AI — AI for e-commerce customer support Mobile Operator — AI for mobile QA Mohi — AI for workflow clarity Monarcha — AI for GIS platforms moonrepo — AI for developer workflow tooling Motives — AI for consumer research Nautilus — AI for car wash optimization NOSO LABS — AI for field technician support Nottelabs — AI for enterprise web agents Novaflow — AI for biology lab analytics Nozomio — AI for contextual coding agents Oki — AI for company intelligence Okibi — AI for agent building Omnara — AI for agent command centers OnDeck AI — AI for video analysis Onyx — AI for generative platform development Opennote — AI for note-based tutoring Opslane — AI for ETL data pipelines Orange Slice — AI for sales lead generation Outlit — AI for quoting and proposals Outrove — AI for Salesforce Pally — AI for relationship management Paloma — AI for billing CRMs Parachute — AI for clinical evaluation and deployment PARES AI — AI for commercial real estate brokers People.ai — AI for enterprise growth insights Perspectives Health — AI for clinic EMRs Pharmie AI — AI for pharmacy technicians Phases — AI for clinical trial automation Pingo AI — AI for language learning companions Pleom — AI for conversational interaction Qualify.bot — AI for commercial lending phone agents Reacher — AI for creator collaboration marketing Ridecell — AI for fleet operations Risely AI — AI for campus administration Risotto — AI for IT helpdesk automation Riverbank Security — AI for offensive security Saphira AI — AI for certification automation Sendbird — AI for omnichannel agents Sentinel — AI for on-call engineering Serafis — AI for institutional investor knowledge graphs Sigmantic AI — AI for HDL design Sira — AI for HR management of hourly teams Socratix AI — AI for fraud and risk teams Solva — AI for insurance Spotlight Realty — AI for real estate brokerage StackAI — AI for low-code agent platforms stagewise — AI for frontend coding agents Stellon Labs — AI for edge device models Stockline — AI for food wholesaler ERP Stormy AI — AI for influencer marketing Synthetic Society — AI for simulating real users SynthioLabs — AI for medical expertise in pharma Tailor — AI for retail ERP automation Tecto AI — AI for governance of AI employees Tesora — AI for procurement analysis Trace — AI for workflow automation TraceRoot.AI — AI for automated bug fixing truthsystems — AI for regulated governance layers Uplift AI — AI for underserved voice languages Veles — AI for dynamic sales pricing Veritus Agent — AI for loan servicing and collections Verne Robotics — AI for robotic arms VoiceOS — AI for voice interviews VoxOps AI — AI for regulated industry calls Vulcan Technologies — AI for regulatory drafting Waydev — AI for engineering leadership insights Wayline — AI for property management voice automation Wedge — AI for healthcare trust layers Workflow86 — AI for workflow automation ZeroEval — AI for agent evaluation and optimization
  - jamiek88 1y ago
    Oh my god, this hilariously looks like it could have been LLM generated itself!
    - deleted 1y ago
      [deleted]
    - JustExAWS 1y ago
      And the ideas may or may not be bad. I don’t know enough about any of the business segments. But to paraphrase the famous Steve Jobs quote “those aren’t businesses, they are features” [1] that a company that is already in the business should be able to throw a few halfway decent engineers at and add the feature to an existing product with real users. [1] He said that about Dropbox. He wasn’t wrong just premature. For the price of 2TB on Dropbox, you can get the entire GSuite with 2TB or Office365 with 1TB for up to five users for 5TB in all.
      - fragmede 1y ago
        now you can, but, what, are you gonna lie down and wait for tech giants to do everything? Not every company needs to be Apple. If Dropbox filed for bankruptcy tomorrow, they've still made millionaires of thousands of people and given jobs to hundreds more, and enabled people to share their files online. Steve Jobs gets to call other companies small because Apple is huge, but there are thousands of companies that "are just features". Yeah, features they forgot to add! Apple still doesn't make cases for their phones.
        JustExAWS 1y ago
        Out of the literally thousands of companies that YC has invested in, only about a dozen have gone public, the rest are either dead, zombies or got acquired. These are all acquisition plays. Even the ones that have gone public haven’t done that well in aggregate. https://medium.com/@kazeemibrahim18/the-post-ipo-performance-of-y-combinator-companies-a-mixed-bag-of-success-and-struggle-58e9a4006f01 https://medium.com/@kazeemibrahim18/the-post-ipo-performance... Dropbox was solving a hard infrastructure problem at scale. These companies are just making some API calls to a model. If an established company in any of these verticals - not necessarily BigTech - see an opportunity, they are either going to throw a few engineers at the problem and add it as a feature or hire a company like the one I work for and we are going to knock out an implementation in a few months. The one YC company I mentioned above is expecting to have their product written by one “full stack engineer” that they are only willing to pay $150K for. How difficult can it be?