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They're also ordering their domestic app store RuStore to be preinstalled making them the 6th to require third party app stores on iPhone, following Japan (Dece

by benoau 1y ago

They're also ordering their domestic app store RuStore to be preinstalled making them the 6th to require third party app stores on iPhone, following Japan (December), Brazil (October) and Australia (TBD from a recent ruling) the UK (TBD from a recent law) and the European Union since about a year ago.

aspenmayer 1y ago
Tired: advocating for independent third party app stores on behalf of users Wired: advocating for state-owned third party app stores on behalf of Big Brother I’m sure there are even groups who would say that all app stores should be state-run, but I think the jokes write themselves in such a scenario, and they’re generally less funny, so I can’t really lampoon it as well as I’d like. I’d be happy with APT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APT_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APT_(software) Instead we got APT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_persistent_threat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_persistent_threat
- bigyabai 1y ago
  The first-party App Store was the state-owned one all along: https://www.macworld.com/article/230330/apple-in-china-why-the-company-withdrew-vpn-apps-from-its-app-store.html https://www.macworld.com/article/230330/apple-in-china-why-t... https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/12/26/apple-defends-removal-of-censored-apps-from-russian-app-store-as-means-to-avoid-total-ban-en-news https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/12/26/apple-defends-re... Apple's treatment of their users in censored or oppressed jurisdictions should make them demand sideloading.
  - aspenmayer 1y ago
    First party is just state-owned with extra steps. > Apple's treatment of their users in censored or oppressed jurisdictions should make them demand sideloading. Sure, but once third party state-owned app stores are mandated, the whole handset is pre-owned. I don’t see how the slippery slope of allowing sideloading doesn’t slide to become a case of mandated state-owned pre-installs, because the only reason any state would want to own and operate an app store is because they want the power of first party app stores, and of their foreign jurisdictions, that they don’t currently have. Most states don’t want you to sideload any more than you already do, because it doesn’t legibly generate GDP. When every view is warped by the lens of “number go up” the myopia of states comes into focus. It becomes clear why folks cut their nose off to spite their face, because they can’t see past the tip of their nose. (I don’t mean you, but I don’t know that sideloading will save us. I still think it’s better for many consumers, but I would hesitate to say most.)

by benoau 1y ago

aspenmayer 1y ago

Tired: advocating for independent third party app stores on behalf of users Wired: advocating for state-owned third party app stores on behalf of Big Brother I’m sure there are even groups who would say that all app stores should be state-run, but I think the jokes write themselves in such a scenario, and they’re generally less funny, so I can’t really lampoon it as well as I’d like. I’d be happy with APT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APT_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APT_(software) Instead we got APT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_persistent_threat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_persistent_threat

bigyabai 1y ago
The first-party App Store was the state-owned one all along: https://www.macworld.com/article/230330/apple-in-china-why-the-company-withdrew-vpn-apps-from-its-app-store.html https://www.macworld.com/article/230330/apple-in-china-why-t... https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/12/26/apple-defends-removal-of-censored-apps-from-russian-app-store-as-means-to-avoid-total-ban-en-news https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/12/26/apple-defends-re... Apple's treatment of their users in censored or oppressed jurisdictions should make them demand sideloading.
- aspenmayer 1y ago
  First party is just state-owned with extra steps. > Apple's treatment of their users in censored or oppressed jurisdictions should make them demand sideloading. Sure, but once third party state-owned app stores are mandated, the whole handset is pre-owned. I don’t see how the slippery slope of allowing sideloading doesn’t slide to become a case of mandated state-owned pre-installs, because the only reason any state would want to own and operate an app store is because they want the power of first party app stores, and of their foreign jurisdictions, that they don’t currently have. Most states don’t want you to sideload any more than you already do, because it doesn’t legibly generate GDP. When every view is warped by the lens of “number go up” the myopia of states comes into focus. It becomes clear why folks cut their nose off to spite their face, because they can’t see past the tip of their nose. (I don’t mean you, but I don’t know that sideloading will save us. I still think it’s better for many consumers, but I would hesitate to say most.)