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Isn’t there `uv tool run ruff` already for this? Or `uv run ruff` if it’s a proper dependency? I’m not sure what’s the point of a special shortcut command, unle

Isn’t there `uv tool run ruff` already for this? Or `uv run ruff` if it’s a proper dependency? I’m not sure what’s the point of a special shortcut command, unless there are plans to make it flexible so it’ll be an abstraction over formatters (unifying ruff, black, etc).

chippiewill 1y ago
It's part of the mission for uv to become "cargo for python". A one stop swiss-army knife for everything you need to manage a Python project. I think it'll get a `uv test` command at some point too. The whole point is you just install `uv` and stop thinking about the pantheon of tools.
- robertlagrant 1y ago
  It'll be interesting to see how the test is done. At the tox level, or the pytest level? (Or another level?) I can see all being useful and ergonomic, but tox's multi-environment setup might fit into it really well.
charliermarsh 1y ago
Yeah, you can definitely use `uvx ruff` (an alias for `uv tool run ruff`) to invoke Ruff. That's what I've done in my own projects historically. The goal here is to see if users like a more streamlined experience with an opinionated default, like you have in Rust or Go: install uv, use `uv init` to create a project, use `uv run` to run your code, `uv format` to format it, etc. Maybe they won't like it! TBD. (Ruff is installed when you invoke `uv format`, rather than bundled with the uv binary, so if you never use `uv format`, there aren't any material downsides to the experiment.)
- divbzero 1y ago
  > (Ruff is installed when you invoke `uv format`, rather than bundled with the uv binary, so if you never use `uv format`, there aren't any material downsides to the experiment.) That’s thoughtful design and could be worth mentioning in the blog post.
- RS-232 1y ago
  Would you ever consider bundling ruff binaries with uv releases similar to uvx and uvw? It would benefit offline users and keep compatible uv/ruff versions in sync. Perhaps even better… cargo-like commands such as uv check, uv doc, and uv test could subsume ruff, ty, and other tools that we haven’t seen yet ;) A pyup command that installs python-build-standalone, uv, python docs, etc. would be totally clutch, as would standalone installers [0] that bundle it all together. [0] https://forge.rust-lang.org/infra/other-installation-methods.html#standalone-installers https://forge.rust-lang.org/infra/other-installation-methods...
smohare 1y ago
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chippiewill 1y ago

It's part of the mission for uv to become "cargo for python". A one stop swiss-army knife for everything you need to manage a Python project. I think it'll get a `uv test` command at some point too. The whole point is you just install `uv` and stop thinking about the pantheon of tools.

robertlagrant 1y ago
It'll be interesting to see how the test is done. At the tox level, or the pytest level? (Or another level?) I can see all being useful and ergonomic, but tox's multi-environment setup might fit into it really well.

charliermarsh 1y ago

Yeah, you can definitely use `uvx ruff` (an alias for `uv tool run ruff`) to invoke Ruff. That's what I've done in my own projects historically. The goal here is to see if users like a more streamlined experience with an opinionated default, like you have in Rust or Go: install uv, use `uv init` to create a project, use `uv run` to run your code, `uv format` to format it, etc. Maybe they won't like it! TBD. (Ruff is installed when you invoke `uv format`, rather than bundled with the uv binary, so if you never use `uv format`, there aren't any material downsides to the experiment.)

divbzero 1y ago
> (Ruff is installed when you invoke `uv format`, rather than bundled with the uv binary, so if you never use `uv format`, there aren't any material downsides to the experiment.) That’s thoughtful design and could be worth mentioning in the blog post.
RS-232 1y ago
Would you ever consider bundling ruff binaries with uv releases similar to uvx and uvw? It would benefit offline users and keep compatible uv/ruff versions in sync. Perhaps even better… cargo-like commands such as uv check, uv doc, and uv test could subsume ruff, ty, and other tools that we haven’t seen yet ;) A pyup command that installs python-build-standalone, uv, python docs, etc. would be totally clutch, as would standalone installers [0] that bundle it all together. [0] https://forge.rust-lang.org/infra/other-installation-methods.html#standalone-installers https://forge.rust-lang.org/infra/other-installation-methods...

smohare 1y ago

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