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They did, it got rejected & they created that thing instead

by posabsolute 14y ago

esolyt 14y ago
But there are many IM apps on the iOS App Store. Why was it rejected?
- Zash 14y ago
  Can you have your own persistent TCP connections on iOS or are you required to use Apple Push Notifications? If not, that's probably why.
  - recoiledsnake 14y ago
    Doesn't Skype run in the bacground to receive calls and IMs?
    - pilif 14y ago
      Skype is a VoIP app and gets special privileges for that. It's just a plist entry of course, but apple is known to reject apps for claiming to be VoIP apps when they are in-fact not (like Sparrow - http://buzzingpixel.com/article/2012/03/sparrow-push http://buzzingpixel.com/article/2012/03/sparrow-push). Also, be mindful of what you ask for. Skype is a terrible battery drain. This could be because Skype just has some bugs or it could be because iOS relly sucks at dealing with background apps which would mean that GTalk would use as much battery as Skype.
      - CrazedGeek 14y ago
        GTalk's big feature is the voice/video chat, so I don't think a VoIP masquerade is the issue.
- donniezazen 14y ago
  Why was it rejected? Apple.
mietek 14y ago
Do you have any sources for this statement?
- esolyt 14y ago
  I was also wondering that. Because I remember a Googler saying they have never made a Google Talk app for iOS.
  - mietek 14y ago
    If they had, I would've been all over it. All existing Jabber/XMPP iOS apps are quite bad.
_djo_ 14y ago
I can't find anything to support that. There was a native Google Voice app that was rejected (well, perma-delayed) but no native Google Talk app as far as I can tell.
dirtyaura 14y ago
This ain't true, at least for the original iOS Google chat solution. It was a deliberate bet to do it as a web app, instead of a native app. I was there and disagreed, but I still understood the willingness to make that bet.
- posabsolute 14y ago
  there you go http://techcrunch.com/2009/07/27/apple-is-growing-rotten-to-the-core-and-its-likely-atts-fault/ http://techcrunch.com/2009/07/27/apple-is-growing-rotten-to-...
  - dirtyaura 14y ago
    Google Voice app was started later than the original web-based Google Chat for iOS project. The latter was already released and in use before Google Voice app was blocked. It wasn't made as a reaction to that dispute.

They did, it got rejected & they created that thing instead

esolyt 14y ago

But there are many IM apps on the iOS App Store. Why was it rejected?

Zash 14y ago
Can you have your own persistent TCP connections on iOS or are you required to use Apple Push Notifications? If not, that's probably why.
- recoiledsnake 14y ago
  Doesn't Skype run in the bacground to receive calls and IMs?
  - pilif 14y ago
    Skype is a VoIP app and gets special privileges for that. It's just a plist entry of course, but apple is known to reject apps for claiming to be VoIP apps when they are in-fact not (like Sparrow - http://buzzingpixel.com/article/2012/03/sparrow-push http://buzzingpixel.com/article/2012/03/sparrow-push). Also, be mindful of what you ask for. Skype is a terrible battery drain. This could be because Skype just has some bugs or it could be because iOS relly sucks at dealing with background apps which would mean that GTalk would use as much battery as Skype.
    - CrazedGeek 14y ago
      GTalk's big feature is the voice/video chat, so I don't think a VoIP masquerade is the issue.
donniezazen 14y ago
Why was it rejected? Apple.

mietek 14y ago

Do you have any sources for this statement?

esolyt 14y ago
I was also wondering that. Because I remember a Googler saying they have never made a Google Talk app for iOS.
- mietek 14y ago
  If they had, I would've been all over it. All existing Jabber/XMPP iOS apps are quite bad.

_djo_ 14y ago

I can't find anything to support that. There was a native Google Voice app that was rejected (well, perma-delayed) but no native Google Talk app as far as I can tell.

dirtyaura 14y ago

This ain't true, at least for the original iOS Google chat solution. It was a deliberate bet to do it as a web app, instead of a native app. I was there and disagreed, but I still understood the willingness to make that bet.

posabsolute 14y ago
there you go http://techcrunch.com/2009/07/27/apple-is-growing-rotten-to-the-core-and-its-likely-atts-fault/ http://techcrunch.com/2009/07/27/apple-is-growing-rotten-to-...
- dirtyaura 14y ago
  Google Voice app was started later than the original web-based Google Chat for iOS project. The latter was already released and in use before Google Voice app was blocked. It wasn't made as a reaction to that dispute.