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very strong claims, any facts to back them up?
by jajko 1y ago
very strong claims, any facts to back them up?
- Henchman21 1y agoThey funded the Nazis with the help of the Catholic Church, did they not? Isn’t that a widely known fact? Or am I simply wrong?
- ljlolel 1y agoCatholics were targeted by the Nazis so seems unlikely
- sincerely 1y agoThe catholic church also helped Nazis escape germany after WWII: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines_(World_War_II) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines_(World_War_II)
- ljlolel 1y agoThat says it was some individuals of a giant organization not policy of any subset of it
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- deepsun 1y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banking_in_Switzerland#Connection_to_illegal_activities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banking_in_Switzerland#Connect... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banking_in_Switzerland#Banking_secrecy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banking_in_Switzerland#Banking... https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/feb/21/tax-timeline-credit-suisse-scandals https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/feb/21/tax-timeline-cr...
- alexey-salmin 1y agoI checked your links and the word "terrorism" isn't mentioned once. There a single mention of some Al Qaeda members having accounts but it's pretty far from "proof of financing terrorism".
- bawolff 1y agoI mean, they talk about arms dealers. Who exactly do you think is buying arms on the black market?
- alexey-salmin 1y agoThe very same link sheds some light on that question too: "Time magazine reported that throughout 1981 and 1982, the Israelis reportedly set up Swiss bank accounts to handle the financial end of the annual multi-million dollars arms deals between Iran and Israel during the Iran–Iraq War." The vast majority of arms dealing is state-controlled, all terrorist groups combined aren't big enough to make a dent. And in any case, the original claim was "money laundering for terrorism" not the other way round.
- yreew 1y agoHow about terrorist states?
- alexey-salmin 1y agoNotice how original claim was "launder a lot of money for terrorism" as if it was something well-known, widespread and repeated. However the evidence so far is "how about this" and "how about that". I would appreciate something more specific like "the investigation found X billions laundered for Hezbollah". Regarding your question: the whole concept of "terrorist states" is made up if you ask me, and UN agrees. States wage wars and commit war crimes (or "collateral damage" if you win the war), other states retaliate. This has little to do with the asymmetric confrontation with terrorist groups which inflict violence but then evade retaliation due to their secretive and decentralized nature. States can't do that: they are centralized and not secretive, you can find them on the map.