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Ironically, you are responding to a person who has the attitudes that his supporters believe the entire world has: They don't like Americans unless they are eng

by JPKab 1y ago

Ironically, you are responding to a person who has the attitudes that his supporters believe the entire world has: They don't like Americans unless they are engaging in unequal trade where they sell goods at vastly lower tariff rates than they apply to US imports. They have no problem with China destroying their fisheries, and joining with India to buy tons of Russian oil and finance the destruction of Ukraine, while simultaneously emitting vastly more CO2 than the US does. They just want free defense, one sided "free trade" and the minute they stop getting it, they hate everyone in this country. I don't agree with this attitude, but the commenter absolutely embodies it. This whole thread embodies it. It's the kind of thing I would send to a bunch of swing voters to persuade them to continue to support these policies.

defrost 1y ago
> while simultaneously emitting vastly more CO2 than the US does. "vastly" is well out of place here. Currently, on a per annum basis, China is the number one emitter, the United States is number two. China currently puts out ~ 2.5 the total of the US. * less than 3x is hardly "vastly more" * on a per capita basis China emits less per person than the US. * Much of China's emissions are due the US offshoring manufacture, a large chunk the CO2 rising from China is a result of US consumer demand. Moreover, the current yearly outputs are merely the bleeding edge of the CO2 problem - it's the cumulative total that is responsible for the increased insulation that is trapping an increasing amount of heat energy. On that front the US is responsible for more of the total raised by human activity than China. By country, per year: https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country/ https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by... By country, cumulative total: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-co-emissions https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-co-emissions
- JPKab 1y ago
  None of you are responding to the fact that China and India are buying Russian oil and financing the thousands of dead every week. Per capita means nothing to the planet. The temperature climbs regardless, and China has a choice and it's chosen power plants even if India doesn't. They are building coal plants every single day and you don't say anything because you are a product of a left-wing movement that views state capitalism as an offshoot of communism and therefore positive. That's why your movement never has anything critical to say about China. You only care about Muslims if they are being murdered by capitalists. But the uyghurs can just go pound sand. They are literally having forced birth control and have lower birth rates than any Muslim population on the planet and you sit there and ignore it.
  - rdedev 1y ago
    https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-record-solar-growth-keeps-chinas-co2-falling-in-first-half-of-2025/ https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-record-solar-growth-kee... China is on track to reduce its use of fossil fuel for energy production
  - lenkite 1y ago
    US/NATO are directly financing the War in Ukraine and supplying weapons. Nobody stopped buying from the US when you were busy bombing the middle east during your War on Terror and annihilating millions. You are still funding the genocide in Gaza and nobody stopped buying from you. The United States has killed more people in War and raised more funding for War in the last three decades than anyone else. It is utterly ridiculous to expect India/China to stop buying Russian oil and destroy their domestic economies to satisfy the sanctimonious hypocrisy of the US. Please remember - you have ALREADY oil-sanctioned Venezuela and Iran. Now you oil sanction yet another major oil producing nation ? - so utterly stupid. Oh btw, the US is financing the Russian War in Ukraine by buying Russian Uranium, Russian Palladium, Russian fertilizer and believe-it-or-not: Russian oil (via processed jet fuel) from India. US imports of Russian minerals and fertilizer were vastly increased in 2025.
- JPKab 1y ago
  "less than 3x is hardly vastly more" Listen to yourself. That is absolutely ridiculous. This is not a serious conversation. I won't be replying to anymore of your comments.
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by JPKab 1y ago

defrost 1y ago

> while simultaneously emitting vastly more CO2 than the US does. "vastly" is well out of place here. Currently, on a per annum basis, China is the number one emitter, the United States is number two. China currently puts out ~ 2.5 the total of the US. * less than 3x is hardly "vastly more" * on a per capita basis China emits less per person than the US. * Much of China's emissions are due the US offshoring manufacture, a large chunk the CO2 rising from China is a result of US consumer demand. Moreover, the current yearly outputs are merely the bleeding edge of the CO2 problem - it's the cumulative total that is responsible for the increased insulation that is trapping an increasing amount of heat energy. On that front the US is responsible for more of the total raised by human activity than China. By country, per year: https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country/ https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by... By country, cumulative total: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-co-emissions https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-co-emissions

JPKab 1y ago
None of you are responding to the fact that China and India are buying Russian oil and financing the thousands of dead every week. Per capita means nothing to the planet. The temperature climbs regardless, and China has a choice and it's chosen power plants even if India doesn't. They are building coal plants every single day and you don't say anything because you are a product of a left-wing movement that views state capitalism as an offshoot of communism and therefore positive. That's why your movement never has anything critical to say about China. You only care about Muslims if they are being murdered by capitalists. But the uyghurs can just go pound sand. They are literally having forced birth control and have lower birth rates than any Muslim population on the planet and you sit there and ignore it.
- rdedev 1y ago
  https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-record-solar-growth-keeps-chinas-co2-falling-in-first-half-of-2025/ https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-record-solar-growth-kee... China is on track to reduce its use of fossil fuel for energy production
- lenkite 1y ago
  US/NATO are directly financing the War in Ukraine and supplying weapons. Nobody stopped buying from the US when you were busy bombing the middle east during your War on Terror and annihilating millions. You are still funding the genocide in Gaza and nobody stopped buying from you. The United States has killed more people in War and raised more funding for War in the last three decades than anyone else. It is utterly ridiculous to expect India/China to stop buying Russian oil and destroy their domestic economies to satisfy the sanctimonious hypocrisy of the US. Please remember - you have ALREADY oil-sanctioned Venezuela and Iran. Now you oil sanction yet another major oil producing nation ? - so utterly stupid. Oh btw, the US is financing the Russian War in Ukraine by buying Russian Uranium, Russian Palladium, Russian fertilizer and believe-it-or-not: Russian oil (via processed jet fuel) from India. US imports of Russian minerals and fertilizer were vastly increased in 2025.
JPKab 1y ago
"less than 3x is hardly vastly more" Listen to yourself. That is absolutely ridiculous. This is not a serious conversation. I won't be replying to anymore of your comments.

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