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But that’s exactly the point - nobody thinks of the citizens of those countries as being unified behind or synonymous with whoever is in charge.

lazide 1y ago
Clearly you’ve never met people? And never seen news discussions, sanctions, seen immigration policies, etc? It may not been as bad and direct as discrimination against the Japanese in WW2, but a ton of people absolutely do discriminate that way. And let’s not talk about Muslims (or anyone with a turban, like Sikhs) post 9/11.
- tene80i 1y ago
  OK yes I meant no reasonable people. I’m not sure what your point is. That Americans deserve to “find out” terrible things because of their government, but other countries don’t? I was just trying to agree with you that the situations are the same.
  - lazide 1y ago
    Deserve has nothing to do with it. But it’s the inevitable consequence of what is going on, and it’s going to get worse. American’s have had a positive PR program for so long, they’re just completely ignorant of what it’s like to no longer have that. The US has switched from exporting the American Dream to exporting the American Nightmare, and that will have long term consequences. People are only now starting to wake up to that fact/feel them, but even if we stopped right this second it will take decades for this to play out. And we’re not stopping, but flooring it.
    - brokenmachine 1y ago
      >The US has switched from exporting the American Dream to exporting the American Nightmare, and that will have long term consequences. This, 100%. I'm Australian. I grew up playing basketball and watching American TV and movies, even had superbowl parties with friends on multiple occasions, which is pretty rare here in Australia. Been to the US on holidays. Always got along well with Americans who came here. Take this free opinion from someone outside the exceptionalist bubble: America is on the decline... and it's going to get worse. People won't easily forget this grotesque spectacle.

lazide 1y ago

Clearly you’ve never met people? And never seen news discussions, sanctions, seen immigration policies, etc? It may not been as bad and direct as discrimination against the Japanese in WW2, but a ton of people absolutely do discriminate that way. And let’s not talk about Muslims (or anyone with a turban, like Sikhs) post 9/11.

tene80i 1y ago
OK yes I meant no reasonable people. I’m not sure what your point is. That Americans deserve to “find out” terrible things because of their government, but other countries don’t? I was just trying to agree with you that the situations are the same.
- lazide 1y ago
  Deserve has nothing to do with it. But it’s the inevitable consequence of what is going on, and it’s going to get worse. American’s have had a positive PR program for so long, they’re just completely ignorant of what it’s like to no longer have that. The US has switched from exporting the American Dream to exporting the American Nightmare, and that will have long term consequences. People are only now starting to wake up to that fact/feel them, but even if we stopped right this second it will take decades for this to play out. And we’re not stopping, but flooring it.
  - brokenmachine 1y ago
    >The US has switched from exporting the American Dream to exporting the American Nightmare, and that will have long term consequences. This, 100%. I'm Australian. I grew up playing basketball and watching American TV and movies, even had superbowl parties with friends on multiple occasions, which is pretty rare here in Australia. Been to the US on holidays. Always got along well with Americans who came here. Take this free opinion from someone outside the exceptionalist bubble: America is on the decline... and it's going to get worse. People won't easily forget this grotesque spectacle.