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Take advantage of the ubiquity of php4+ and write languages that compile TO php... Maybe I am crazy but it's working well for me thus far! I should be releasing

Take advantage of the ubiquity of php4+ and write languages that compile TO php... Maybe I am crazy but it's working well for me thus far! I should be releasing a full r5 scheme implementation soon.

jrockway 18y ago
While writing Scheme is probably better than writing PHP, how are you dealing with PHP's poor support for ... everything? I am really interested in taking a look at this code, especially your tail-call elimination algorithms and the continuations implementation.
- shaunxcode 18y ago
  One of the interesting things about php is that it does NOT lack support for many of the cool paradigms and libraries it just has a very ugly way of showing it. Continuations really aren't that hard and are represented by a very simple class. As far as tail call elimination goes right now I am ignoring it (I know that means it is not technically r5) SAYING THAT I have an idea for reformatting such cases into an iterative form (sort of likes rubys redo) but it's on the pile labeled optimization.
jamongkad 18y ago
That kind sounds like what the Haxe Project is doing now.
- shaunxcode 18y ago
  Interesting - my approach is to have the entire thing written in php so there is no incurred "cost" of having to install anything or compile from one framework to another.
  - jamongkad 18y ago
    Hang on you're writing a Scheme that compiles down to PHP?
    - shaunxcode 18y ago
      precisely. My ultimate (and totally attainable) goal is for the generated code to actually perform better than the "hand-written" php would for a given task. Regardless it's fun to go through the r5 spec piece by piece and fully digest it. quote and quasi quote + the macro system are clearly the most interesting pieces and I am striving to not get side tracked and start working on my own flavor of things thus why its nice to fall back on the spec as the initial goal/proof of concept. Are you interested in helping or just disgusted?
      - jamongkad 18y ago
        Haha I have to admit I'm surprised and very interested at the same time. Email me at wrm932[at]gmail.com let's talk so more.
        shaunxcode 18y ago
        sweet - ding you have mail.

Take advantage of the ubiquity of php4+ and write languages that compile TO php... Maybe I am crazy but it's working well for me thus far! I should be releasing a full r5 scheme implementation soon.

jrockway 18y ago

While writing Scheme is probably better than writing PHP, how are you dealing with PHP's poor support for ... everything? I am really interested in taking a look at this code, especially your tail-call elimination algorithms and the continuations implementation.

shaunxcode 18y ago
One of the interesting things about php is that it does NOT lack support for many of the cool paradigms and libraries it just has a very ugly way of showing it. Continuations really aren't that hard and are represented by a very simple class. As far as tail call elimination goes right now I am ignoring it (I know that means it is not technically r5) SAYING THAT I have an idea for reformatting such cases into an iterative form (sort of likes rubys redo) but it's on the pile labeled optimization.

jamongkad 18y ago

That kind sounds like what the Haxe Project is doing now.

shaunxcode 18y ago
Interesting - my approach is to have the entire thing written in php so there is no incurred "cost" of having to install anything or compile from one framework to another.
- jamongkad 18y ago
  Hang on you're writing a Scheme that compiles down to PHP?
  - shaunxcode 18y ago
    precisely. My ultimate (and totally attainable) goal is for the generated code to actually perform better than the "hand-written" php would for a given task. Regardless it's fun to go through the r5 spec piece by piece and fully digest it. quote and quasi quote + the macro system are clearly the most interesting pieces and I am striving to not get side tracked and start working on my own flavor of things thus why its nice to fall back on the spec as the initial goal/proof of concept. Are you interested in helping or just disgusted?
    - jamongkad 18y ago
      Haha I have to admit I'm surprised and very interested at the same time. Email me at wrm932[at]gmail.com let's talk so more.
      - shaunxcode 18y ago
        sweet - ding you have mail.