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> ... as if there were some sort of authorative objective dataset, but by nature, how can you measure unreported income? Citizen also take cash jobs and don't
by 1659447091 1y ago
> ... as if there were some sort of authorative objective dataset, but by nature, how can you measure unreported income?
Citizen also take cash jobs and don't report the income, yet they have more options and access to resources. Unlike undocumented persons. I'm guessing you feel the same about citizens dodging their tax responsibilities at least as strongly as you do undocumented workers. See the end for a solution, for the undocumented at least.
See [0] for a breakdown of taxes and contributions.$19.5B in Federal Income tax, $32.3B in Social Insurances taxes payed through automatic withholding from their paychecks in 2022. They are not getting jobs where they would owe at the end of the year. They pay the same sales and excise taxes on goods and services, property taxes on renting/owning etc. $96.7B total taxes paid in 2022.
Some use "borrowed" SSN (usually provided by the employer or employer referred source), they don't get to file for a refund; some use ITINs and are also likely forgo refunds thus pay more taxes than a similarly employed citizen while losing out on benefits they are supposedly "stealing". They have no way to access social security.
A 2006 study showed they contributed so much to Texas' GDP that Texas refuses to conduct further studies on their economic impact [1] A Texas economic analysis firm in 2016 estimated a contribution of $11.8B to the state after subtracting $3.1 B the state spent for their health, education, other public services.[2]
The simple solution is access to work authorization. They trade being exploited by employers to paying more taxes for that security. If citizens wanted the jobs they do we would not have a chronic shortage of workers in those positions, Notably hospice and construction.
[0] https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/ https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
[1] https://www.texastribune.org/2024/12/06/texas-undocumented-immigrants-economic-contributions-outweigh-costs/ https://www.texastribune.org/2024/12/06/texas-undocumented-i...
[2] https://www.perrymangroup.com/media/uploads/report/perryman-texas-needs-the-workers-01-29-16.pdf https://www.perrymangroup.com/media/uploads/report/perryman-...
- TZubiri 1y ago> I'm guessing you feel the same about citizens dodging their tax responsibilities at least as strongly as you do undocumented workers No, it's not the same. Immigrants can be deported, which is not the case for citizens by birthright. Additionally birthright citizens have not opted to be born in their country, however immigrants have made the choice to be in their country of destiny, so they are in a much weaker moral and legal position to justify tax evasion. Not the same at all.
- jacquesm 1y ago> Immigrants can be deported, which is not the case for citizens by birthright. Have I got news for you...
- 1659447091 1y agoExcept citizens are free to renounce citizenship -- thus tax duty -- and leave of their own accord. The US makes this very easy, unlike other countries. I have no slack for tax dodgers, especially when they are given the resources to fulfill their financial duty to their country that is providing them the life they live. If immigrants can move to a new country and are even willing to pay more in taxes by using ID they can not get refunds for in order to be here, then citizens that don't want to pay their taxes and cry about it wasnt their choice to be here should leave such a hostile environment and make room for those that want to be here and are willing to pay their due. Lucky for you there is a solution to your gripe, allow work authorization so immigrants can pay their taxes without fear of deportation to a 3rd country prison. Not much to do about my gripe with freeloading citizens who the rest of us end up paying more for. Even undocumented workers pay a higher percent of taxes than citizens in some 40 states, so I guess good thing they are here to help making up for those free loading citizens as well. See [0] above