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> yet when one of my devices breaks down, I can get a replacement on the same day, How many times has it happened in your life? Anyone who uses a computer pr

> yet when one of my devices breaks down, I can get a replacement on the same day, How many times has it happened in your life? Anyone who uses a computer professionally has a backup ready at all time anyway. These days it is not like it is hard to find a computer with its baseline compatible with linux anyway. An incompatible network chip issue is easily solved with a know USB compatible wifi card. Usually only people buying brand new uncommon tech/features or gaming experience issues.

pjmlp 1y ago
I use computers since 1986, UNIX in various flavours since 1992, GNU/Linux since 1995 starting with Slackware 2.0 (kernel 1.0.9, first ELF support), and to this day that is the usual answer in Linux forums. Yet, other than the Netbooks glory days, I am yet to buy a Laptop, even from Linux shops, where everything is 100% supported, or eventually doesn't get broken in some kernel update. I rather use the Linux kernel in the shape of Android/Linux, WebOS/Linux, or device specific ones like Raspberry or Cloud vendors sponsored distros, which they have to maintain themselves for their hardware. Best of all, it all works on whatever I can get on Media Markt, Saturn, FNAC, Cool Blue, Conrad, Publico, Dixons,...
- eadmund 1y ago
  > Yet, other than the Netbooks glory days, I am yet to buy a Laptop, even from Linux shops, where everything is 100% supported, or eventually doesn't get broken in some kernel update. Purism’s laptops appear to be well-supported and to hold up well over time. System76’s too.
  - pjmlp 1y ago
    Where can I buy them in Europe, without ordering online? Additionally, how many posts from online forums do you want with counter-examples from them?
    - prmoustache 1y ago
      If you are in europe you have plenty of choice: slimbook, tuxedo, starlabs, novacustom, keynux, skikk....I think framework ships to europe and make sure their laptops are compatible with linux too: https://frame.work/es/en/linux https://frame.work/es/en/linux EDIT: I hadn't seen the "without ordering online" You just check what models/chipsets are supported when you are in the shops
- prmoustache 1y ago
  > Best of all, it all works on whatever I can get on Media Markt, Saturn, FNAC, Cool Blue, Conrad, Publico, Dixons,... You don't expect MacOS to work on an ACER laptop you buy at the nearest Mediamarkt right? Nor do you expect to be able to plug a windows installer memory stick and install it on an apple silicon macbook air right ? With only a couple minutes of research it is fairly trivial to find laptops compatible with linux, especially if you stick to business line of laptops such as the thinkpads, dell latitude. I could install and use Fedora on the last 3 professional laptops I have been given by my employers, as in all personal computers I have bought.

pjmlp 1y ago

I use computers since 1986, UNIX in various flavours since 1992, GNU/Linux since 1995 starting with Slackware 2.0 (kernel 1.0.9, first ELF support), and to this day that is the usual answer in Linux forums. Yet, other than the Netbooks glory days, I am yet to buy a Laptop, even from Linux shops, where everything is 100% supported, or eventually doesn't get broken in some kernel update. I rather use the Linux kernel in the shape of Android/Linux, WebOS/Linux, or device specific ones like Raspberry or Cloud vendors sponsored distros, which they have to maintain themselves for their hardware. Best of all, it all works on whatever I can get on Media Markt, Saturn, FNAC, Cool Blue, Conrad, Publico, Dixons,...

eadmund 1y ago
> Yet, other than the Netbooks glory days, I am yet to buy a Laptop, even from Linux shops, where everything is 100% supported, or eventually doesn't get broken in some kernel update. Purism’s laptops appear to be well-supported and to hold up well over time. System76’s too.
- pjmlp 1y ago
  Where can I buy them in Europe, without ordering online? Additionally, how many posts from online forums do you want with counter-examples from them?
  - prmoustache 1y ago
    If you are in europe you have plenty of choice: slimbook, tuxedo, starlabs, novacustom, keynux, skikk....I think framework ships to europe and make sure their laptops are compatible with linux too: https://frame.work/es/en/linux https://frame.work/es/en/linux EDIT: I hadn't seen the "without ordering online" You just check what models/chipsets are supported when you are in the shops
prmoustache 1y ago
> Best of all, it all works on whatever I can get on Media Markt, Saturn, FNAC, Cool Blue, Conrad, Publico, Dixons,... You don't expect MacOS to work on an ACER laptop you buy at the nearest Mediamarkt right? Nor do you expect to be able to plug a windows installer memory stick and install it on an apple silicon macbook air right ? With only a couple minutes of research it is fairly trivial to find laptops compatible with linux, especially if you stick to business line of laptops such as the thinkpads, dell latitude. I could install and use Fedora on the last 3 professional laptops I have been given by my employers, as in all personal computers I have bought.