He was obviously heavily influential. One of the jurors, Ilagan says: "Apple said they owned patents, but we were debating about the prior art. Hogan was jury

He was obviously heavily influential. One of the jurors, Ilagan says: "Apple said they owned patents, but we were debating about the prior art. Hogan was jury foreman. He had experience. He owned patents himself…so he took us through his experience. After that it was easier."