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What amazes me is that this article fails to mention that the slippery slope is already underway. Multiple states have some variation on the "App Store Accounta
by EarlKing 1y ago
What amazes me is that this article fails to mention that the slippery slope is already underway. Multiple states have some variation on the "App Store Accountability Act" that requires you present ID just to download apps, including Texas (SB 2420) and Louisiana (HB 570), with several more underway. Then there's the various acts that try to regulate social media by demanding you present ID to be able to post (or else gimp your site to fit one of the carve-outs they have which conveniently ensures that users cannot engage in public posting of any kind towards one another) such as Texas's HB 186 (from 2024).
Put simply: You've all been asleep at the switch while the US-side Internet has been systematically under attack by pornscolds trying to implement Chinese-style censorship, this article's author included.
- s1gsegv 1y agoWe haven’t been asleep. We’ve been saying no at every turn. But they’re using propaganda, and they will continue until something sticks. It’s an endless fight and we are losing, despite our efforts.
- 1970-01-01 1y agoIf we're honest, this is exactly what it will take for the bots to evaporate into the void. I have always been against 'having a license to internet', but I am very interested in seeing what will happen to all the bots if it does (temporarily) succeed. No bot should be able to pass an ID check, and if one does, its pure legal fuel to sue the system.
- numpad0 1y agoThat's beyond naive. Nothing will happen to bots because they're not human (and/or) individuals from first world nations. Bot farm runners can either print IDs, post from unrestricted locations, or through bulk posting APIs offered behind doors. Social media operators has less issues with cooperative spams than actually organically trending posts because contents are less original. It only hurts real users.
- 1970-01-01 1y agoIANAL, if there is a very clear legal requirement to identify every user in the system to determine their age, and the bots remain unfazed, then the ID verification mechanism is clearly broken. If the ID mechanism is clearly broken (wontfix situation), then the social media entity has willingly ignored their legal obligation to ID children. Someone will very likely sue the social media company for that.
- LexiMax 1y agoJust because the social media entity knows who someone is doesn't mean they have to truthfully surface this information to the end user.
- bilbo0s 1y agoWhat gets me is that people keep voting in favor of this stuff? It's clear that the HN crowd is a bit of an echo chamber. Somehow, these messages of warning are not getting to people who need to hear them in order to stop voting against their own interests. Well, now I think about it, people vote against their own interests on all kinds of issues. So I suppose this one doesn't have to be any different?
- ryandvm 1y agoI'll be honest. Many of us in the US are tired of fighting with people that vote against their own interests time and again. It's like having a family member that keeps letting a burglar in the back door, over and over again. At some point you start thinking it might be easier to just find somewhere else to live...
- Henchman21 1y ago[flagged]
- JohnFen 1y agoGiving up just guarantees all this stuff gets locked in. Never give up. Particularly when it seems like continuing to fight is pointless.
- Henchman21 1y agoPut a weapon in my hand and show me where I can start fighting the good fight and I’m in. I can’t do it alone and I wouldn’t try alone. We need to stand the fuck up and start fighting for our lives, our futures, out world. But until that day comes? There’s literally nothing for me to do. And to be clear: I’d happily die for a cause to give my life some meaning. Because as it stands working the rat race is meaningless.
- JohnFen 1y ago