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How much longer will people tolerate this? Veggies spiked 30% last month. At some point this has to fall apart as regular people just straight up cannot afford
by bix6 1y ago
How much longer will people tolerate this? Veggies spiked 30% last month. At some point this has to fall apart as regular people just straight up cannot afford anything?
- toomuchtodo 1y agoWhen they are willing to take action to improve the governance outcome. If you don't like your representation, do something about it.
- pessimizer 1y agoThe suggestion that misgoverned people should decide not to be misgoverned, and accomplish this by doing "something" is certainly a suggestion.
- toomuchtodo 1y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_boxes_of_liberty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_boxes_of_liberty https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/951719-power-concedes-nothing-without-a-demand-it-never-did-and https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/951719-power-concedes-nothi...
- mindslight 1y agoThe problem is that the mainstream American conception of liberty has come to mean liberty for corpos, inverting the thrust of the individualist/revolutionary spirit to effectively undermine individual liberty. And we're actually well into using those boxes - effectively at the jury box stage but with the president doing the legal nullification rather than juries. And the useful idiots are still clamoring to move on to the ammo box. The worse it gets, the harder they demand their self-defeating quack cures.
- GuinansEyebrows 1y agolook, i agree with not blaming each other, but at some point we are going to have to develop a sense of class solidarity like the ownership class has, and to wield it in order to effect material changes.
- happytoexplain 1y agoWhy would this comment be directed at the parent, rather than at the GP?
- GuinansEyebrows 1y agoi read "certainly a suggestion" as sarcasm. maybe i assumed incorrectly :)
- pessimizer 1y agoThey can just take out payday loans. edit: have they ever considered prison?
- righthand 1y agoGood question. I guess until they go hungry in the middle class. I was just told in another thread that I can afford eggs even though they’ve spiked 200%. So I guess a 30% for produce is no big deal.
- throwmeaway222 1y agoThe system is working as expected however. I get that a lot of people see wealth concentration as a bad thing, but it's just part of the system. If those wealthy people are willing to spend - then it goes back into the economy and prices rise, but people are getting paid for things. If they hold onto it, then prices stabilize, the value of the dollar temporarily goes up. At some point these rich people spend all of it somehow. And if you, as a person that demands more pay, then just ask. If you get a no, quit. It's as simple as that. No one should be forced to do anything different. I wouldn't ask you to give up half your salary?
- bongodongobob 1y agoAbsolutely not. 100 million people will spend $100 million a million times faster than a billionaire will.
- lm28469 1y agoHm yeah buddy that's not really how it goes historically though. You can't just tell people to pound sand indefinitely, something has to give
- burnt-resistor 1y ago"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
- PenguinCoder 1y ago> And if you, as a person that demands more pay, then just ask. If you get a no, quit. It's as simple as that. You speak from a position of privilege. It is not as simple as that. It is expensive to exist in this current day, and quitting a job when you don't have another source of income lined up, is not smart; or doable for the majority of the working class. Bills and debt collectors don't care about your moral high ground.
- throwawayqqq11 1y agoIf social mobility was equally distributed, in both directions, up and down, you would be able to observe a decrease in wealth concentration. Yet, what you clearly observe is ...? And this tells you what about the system and its intent? Can you see mow, why so many are concerned?
- JohnMakin 1y agoLet them fund doordash deliveries with microloans /s
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> How much longer will people tolerate this? Tolerate? We’re cheering it on. We just voted in a unified government to hose the poor to give the rich a tax cut.
- toomuchtodo 1y agoCitation: https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2025-08/61367-Distributional-Effects.pdf https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2025-08/61367-Distributiona... https://www.cbo.gov/about/overview https://www.cbo.gov/about/overview
- Der_Einzige 1y agoTrump told Americas latinos that he was going to deport them en mass and that got him +20 points shift in latino voting patterns in 4 years. https://www.axios.com/2025/06/26/trump-harris-latino-voters-2024-election-pew https://www.axios.com/2025/06/26/trump-harris-latino-voters-... I think that the way to win in American politics is to tell whatever group who you want to vote for you that you intend to screw them as hard as physically possible. Americans politics in 2025 can be best summed up with one word: Schadenfreude
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> Trump told Americas latinos that he was going to deport them en mass and that got him +20 points shift in latino voting patterns in 4 years American politics is racially depolarising. Democrats absolutely missed this. Pretending a gay business owner and Catholic construction worker will vote the same because they share a skin color and language is not informative.
- bigstrat2003 1y agoYou aren't trying very hard to understand what's going on if you just blithely write it off as "people vote for whomever screws them". A much more plausible explanation is that there's a contingent of Latinos who take pride in being legal citizens, resent people who are here illegally, and Trump's gains were with said contingent. That's just a theory on my part which may not be true - but it is at least plausible, unlike the idea that people are actively trying to hurt themselves.
- megaman821 1y agoConnect the dots here. What on earth does CEO pay have to do with vegtable prices? Perhaps look at tarrifs and trade barriers, transportation and storage fees, weather patterns and probably a dozen more things more relevant than CEO pay.
- jeffbee 1y agoThe executive class supports the tariffs guy. That's the connection.
- megaman821 1y agoIf you believe that the "Eat the Rich" and Luigi messaging is going to get the tariffs guy and his ilk out of office, good luck. Trying to punish the rich is not going to work when most Americans aspire to be rich themselves, even if it is unlikely.
- jeffbee 1y agoYou appear to have commented on the wrong thread when you intended to reply to your strawman.
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- thrance 1y agoSeeing how many Americans were cheering on the murder of Brian Thompson, yeah, I'd say Americans are out for blood, and whoever promises retributions on the wealthy first will be the next president of the United States. Note that I do not condone Thompson's murder, I am simply stating the fact that if people could so easily justify something that is usually evidently morally abhorrent is proof enough that this resentment exists and can be exploited.
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- bilbo0s 1y agoAre there no workhouses? Are there no prisons? /s Hat tip to Dickens. Something about our economic system needs to change. I hope it's not prisons and workhouses in the future, but the declining quality of people being voted into our steward class is concerning. Something tells me for some of our elected officials, prisons and workhouses are viable options.