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What I've seen is mostly small apps and people that claim they're making thousands of dollars every month with them. And they usually try to sell you their cou

by alecsm 1y ago

What I've seen is mostly small apps and people that claim they're making thousands of dollars every month with them. And they usually try to sell you their courses/mentorships. I don't know if I'm being suspicious because they seem fake or because they came out of nowhere and are earning in a month what I make in a year.

Mabusto 1y ago
I've noticed a huge uptick in this brand of "entrepreneur". I think everyone who was inspired by devs like LevelsIO, limped their way through some code academy tutorials and was discouraged that you actually needed to have _some_ technical skills back in the mid 2010s is now encouraged to try again with vibe coding. It's always a combo of vibe coding + automation tools like n8n/zapier that does some simple data plumbing or just calls an API. Just like you said, they all claim to make $xk per month and have a course to sign up for. I really hate this as places like product hunt are just gummed up now with Slapps (AI slop apps). The courses they sell seem to be how to quickly make Slapps, get people's email addresses and then use the authors email list management software (for a monthly fee) to endlessly send spam.
- nomilk 1y ago
  Sounds like one of those course-based pyramid schemes similar to life coaches who "coach coaches to coach others how to coach coaches"
- csa 1y ago
  > It's always a combo of vibe coding + automation tools like n8n/zapier that does some simple data plumbing or just calls an API. I agree with all that you said, however… I have found that doing stuff that could be done with code with the automation tools/services that you mentioned above (plus excel) is often preferable for small businesses and certain orgs precisely so that a programmer doesn’t have to be called on every time a change is needed. Not knocking programmers (I’ve been programming since age 10), but programmers aren’t always easy to hire and evaluate, and their cost (at least until recently) has been extremely high. These automation tools allow for business to make a tech leap with much lower execution cost and risk. So while I agree that a lot of the “vibe coding” stuff being promoted is drivel, that doesn’t mean that the tools themselves are not empowering in the right hands.
deepdarkforest 1y ago
Here is the secret: Step 1: Vibecode 5 trash generic apps (eg AI interior designers, gpt wrappers) Step 2: Launch with paying 15k in google/meta ads Step 3: Receive back ~5k in revenue Step 4: Spam on twitter+linkedin clickbaity "heres how i reached 60K ARR in 3 milliseconds" posts to attract ex-crypto bros and hustlers Step 5: Use your newfound following for sponsored content, courses and hopefully actual organic growth for your aforementioned trash apps
herval 1y ago
This isn’t a “vibe coding” phenomenon and isn’t particularly egregious now. It’s usually the same people who peddled crypto, NFTs, multilevel marketing, seo blogspam and a bunch of other “get rich quick” schemes in the past

by alecsm 1y ago

Mabusto 1y ago

I've noticed a huge uptick in this brand of "entrepreneur". I think everyone who was inspired by devs like LevelsIO, limped their way through some code academy tutorials and was discouraged that you actually needed to have _some_ technical skills back in the mid 2010s is now encouraged to try again with vibe coding. It's always a combo of vibe coding + automation tools like n8n/zapier that does some simple data plumbing or just calls an API. Just like you said, they all claim to make $xk per month and have a course to sign up for. I really hate this as places like product hunt are just gummed up now with Slapps (AI slop apps). The courses they sell seem to be how to quickly make Slapps, get people's email addresses and then use the authors email list management software (for a monthly fee) to endlessly send spam.

nomilk 1y ago
Sounds like one of those course-based pyramid schemes similar to life coaches who "coach coaches to coach others how to coach coaches"
csa 1y ago
> It's always a combo of vibe coding + automation tools like n8n/zapier that does some simple data plumbing or just calls an API. I agree with all that you said, however… I have found that doing stuff that could be done with code with the automation tools/services that you mentioned above (plus excel) is often preferable for small businesses and certain orgs precisely so that a programmer doesn’t have to be called on every time a change is needed. Not knocking programmers (I’ve been programming since age 10), but programmers aren’t always easy to hire and evaluate, and their cost (at least until recently) has been extremely high. These automation tools allow for business to make a tech leap with much lower execution cost and risk. So while I agree that a lot of the “vibe coding” stuff being promoted is drivel, that doesn’t mean that the tools themselves are not empowering in the right hands.

deepdarkforest 1y ago

Here is the secret: Step 1: Vibecode 5 trash generic apps (eg AI interior designers, gpt wrappers) Step 2: Launch with paying 15k in google/meta ads Step 3: Receive back ~5k in revenue Step 4: Spam on twitter+linkedin clickbaity "heres how i reached 60K ARR in 3 milliseconds" posts to attract ex-crypto bros and hustlers Step 5: Use your newfound following for sponsored content, courses and hopefully actual organic growth for your aforementioned trash apps

herval 1y ago

This isn’t a “vibe coding” phenomenon and isn’t particularly egregious now. It’s usually the same people who peddled crypto, NFTs, multilevel marketing, seo blogspam and a bunch of other “get rich quick” schemes in the past