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I don't see where the problem is here, actually. Most VPNs that are trustworthy and good for video are paid products, right? So the VPN provider literally onl

I don't see where the problem is here, actually. Most VPNs that are trustworthy and good for video are paid products, right? So the VPN provider literally only has to prevent UK customers using debit cards to pay. Problem solved.

jandrese 1y ago
Some VPN providers let you mail them cash. Bitcoin or other crypto currencies are also pretty common payment methods. Honestly VPNs are cheap enough that there are a lot of options that don't require a debit/credit card.
globalise83 1y ago
That will kill their sales, because debit cards are hugely popular in the UK (4:1 ratio versus credit cards in transaction terms).
- exasperaited 1y ago
  It will have some impact on sales, but essentially everyone has a credit card they can use for purchases.
froddd 1y ago
Why would a VPN provider do that?
general1726 1y ago
If you are outside of UK's jurisdiction (i.e. EU), why would you even care if somebody from UK is paying by a debit card? What is UK going to do? Send bobbies on you?
- exasperaited 1y ago
  EU/Asia-Pacific/US firms obey UK jurisdiction if they sell to a significant number of UK customers, believe it or not. Collecting and remitting UK VAT is normal, for example, so is recognising UK consumer rights, distance selling regulations etc. Obeying the laws of the jurisdictions where your customers are is actually pretty central to successful international trade. Surprised to find anyone on this site who thinks otherwise.
  - general1726 1y ago
    Yeah, no. Otherwise DMCA from USA would be enforceable in EU and Asia, which they are not. And if you believe they are, tell me when USA last time successfully DMCAed Chinese company in China. Alcohol in Nordic countries is extremely taxed, so Nordic youth often times goes to central Europe for drinking parties. Should pub owners in central Europe be arrested by Nordic police for selling improperly taxed alcohol? Good luck with that. Or you have draconic UK anti-hate speech laws. How are you going to enforce them in i.e. France?
joquarky 1y ago
VPN drop boxes are only a one time cost. Are they going to require an ID to buy a Raspberry Pi?

jandrese 1y ago

Some VPN providers let you mail them cash. Bitcoin or other crypto currencies are also pretty common payment methods. Honestly VPNs are cheap enough that there are a lot of options that don't require a debit/credit card.

globalise83 1y ago

That will kill their sales, because debit cards are hugely popular in the UK (4:1 ratio versus credit cards in transaction terms).

exasperaited 1y ago
It will have some impact on sales, but essentially everyone has a credit card they can use for purchases.

froddd 1y ago

Why would a VPN provider do that?

general1726 1y ago

If you are outside of UK's jurisdiction (i.e. EU), why would you even care if somebody from UK is paying by a debit card? What is UK going to do? Send bobbies on you?

exasperaited 1y ago
EU/Asia-Pacific/US firms obey UK jurisdiction if they sell to a significant number of UK customers, believe it or not. Collecting and remitting UK VAT is normal, for example, so is recognising UK consumer rights, distance selling regulations etc. Obeying the laws of the jurisdictions where your customers are is actually pretty central to successful international trade. Surprised to find anyone on this site who thinks otherwise.
- general1726 1y ago
  Yeah, no. Otherwise DMCA from USA would be enforceable in EU and Asia, which they are not. And if you believe they are, tell me when USA last time successfully DMCAed Chinese company in China. Alcohol in Nordic countries is extremely taxed, so Nordic youth often times goes to central Europe for drinking parties. Should pub owners in central Europe be arrested by Nordic police for selling improperly taxed alcohol? Good luck with that. Or you have draconic UK anti-hate speech laws. How are you going to enforce them in i.e. France?

joquarky 1y ago

VPN drop boxes are only a one time cost. Are they going to require an ID to buy a Raspberry Pi?