In Germany we do hand counting and i have participated on multiple occasions and would say 1. it is really hard to do any fraud for multiple reasons: \* the

In Germany we do hand counting and i have participated on multiple occasions and would say 1. it is really hard to do any fraud for multiple reasons: \* the people counting are pseudo randomly chosen \* but even if you somehow managed to get "your" people to count then you've only secured one very small portion of the votes \* the counting areas are near to each other so some random citizens would be able to observe multiple counting areas at once \* there is no "winner takes all" rule in Germany and neither is there a electoral college. 2. The counting and reporting processes are well monitored and documented so that simple inconsistencies become visible right away either in the counting group (7-9 people in general) or when they phone in the results to the central point. 3. There is obviously a cost involved in having people count BUT i can't imagine it being more that paying for the counting machines since the people involved aren't paid normal wages but instead expense allowances. I fully support handcounting over machine counting! But the US would still have to get rid of old traditions, namely electoral college and gerrymandering practices. The popular vote should be the deciding factor most of the time!