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What can we do to stop Google killing the open web other than complaining? One way is to tell everyone to use Firefox (uBlock origin works there) It is still

What can we do to stop Google killing the open web other than complaining? One way is to tell everyone to use Firefox (uBlock origin works there) It is still an issue that the Mozilla Foundation is still 80% funded by Google though, so this needs to be solved first. Somehow Firefox needs to be moved away from Mozilla if they cannot find an alternative funding source other than Google.

ymolodtsov 1y ago
Firefox is used by 1% of users.
- MrVandemar 1y ago
  The top 1% of users :-)
andersmurphy 1y ago
That would have been true pre Mozilla implosion.
pjmlp 1y ago
Stop using Chrome and Electron, but of course no one will, it was devs that made them what they are today.
izacus 1y ago
You need to admit to yourself that maintaining a critical piece of software like a web browser costs a lot in work and finance and start figuring where and how you'll fund people that do more than complain. Developing software is hard - and OSS hasn't found a way to do hard things yet.
ozgrakkurt 1y ago
You can donate to some project like ladybird or servo if they take donations. Or contribute.
- colesantiago 1y ago
  Ladybird looks promising, but I don't see any donation form for this, only sponsorships. If that is the case, we need to come together and donate thousands to ladybird en masse. It might take around ~30 years for adoption but it is a start.
  - lkramer 1y ago
    There is a donate button in the top right of https://ladybird.org/ https://ladybird.org/
rapnie 1y ago
Use the open web yourself, build on it, align with standars, and help them mature, participate in open standard bodies.
- colesantiago 1y ago
  How long will this take us? Don't you think Google and the other big tech companies already has massive influence in the W3C and web standards?
ekianjo 1y ago
If you read the article you will see that Mozilla supports the removal of XLST. So switching to Firefox which also turned off RSS support several years ago is hardly a good choice.
zoobab 1y ago
Ask antitrust authorities to dissolve them properly in acid.

ymolodtsov 1y ago

Firefox is used by 1% of users.

MrVandemar 1y ago
The top 1% of users :-)

andersmurphy 1y ago

That would have been true pre Mozilla implosion.

pjmlp 1y ago

Stop using Chrome and Electron, but of course no one will, it was devs that made them what they are today.

izacus 1y ago

You need to admit to yourself that maintaining a critical piece of software like a web browser costs a lot in work and finance and start figuring where and how you'll fund people that do more than complain. Developing software is hard - and OSS hasn't found a way to do hard things yet.

ozgrakkurt 1y ago

You can donate to some project like ladybird or servo if they take donations. Or contribute.

colesantiago 1y ago
Ladybird looks promising, but I don't see any donation form for this, only sponsorships. If that is the case, we need to come together and donate thousands to ladybird en masse. It might take around ~30 years for adoption but it is a start.
- lkramer 1y ago
  There is a donate button in the top right of https://ladybird.org/ https://ladybird.org/

rapnie 1y ago

Use the open web yourself, build on it, align with standars, and help them mature, participate in open standard bodies.

colesantiago 1y ago
How long will this take us? Don't you think Google and the other big tech companies already has massive influence in the W3C and web standards?

ekianjo 1y ago

If you read the article you will see that Mozilla supports the removal of XLST. So switching to Firefox which also turned off RSS support several years ago is hardly a good choice.

zoobab 1y ago

Ask antitrust authorities to dissolve them properly in acid.