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Why is it any more gross than, for example, meatloaf?

colechristensen 1y ago
All of the things in meat loaf are recognizably food. Meat, bread, eggs, dairy, onion, herbs, spices. Industrial food has a lot of things which are much less recognizable as food. Degrees of separation from something alive which I'd like to eat to the ingredient matters to plenty of people.
- i_love_retros 1y ago
  How is eating eggs not gross? It's a chickens egg... And milk from a cows udder, how is that not gross? You know there's puss and blood in cows milk because they all have raw infected udders from being milked non stop by a machine? Enjoy your meatloaf!
  - juanani 1y ago
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  - colechristensen 1y ago
    In general I do not find eating animals or animal products offputting. I am an animal, I eat animals. The disconnect from nature caused by your entire diet being boxed and shrinkwrapped gives a person strange perspectives on biological reality. Vegitables are grown IN THE DIRT THEY ARE BY DEFINITION DIRTY, FIGS CONTAIN DIGESTED WASPS, nearly every agricultural product contains at least a little bit of BUGS, FRUIT IS THE REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS OF A FLOWER. Sigh.
    - bowmessage 1y ago
      Well said. I will never understand how so many defend the expeller-propelled and solvent laden oils as somehow pleasant and natural…
      - colechristensen 1y ago
        You think squeezing something to get the oil out is unpleasant and unnatural? I don't know what to do with that, it's nearly as absurd as saying cutting food with a knife is gross and unnatural, you should use your teeth instead.
        bowmessage 1y ago
        Have you looked up how seed oils are made? There’s very little squeezing and a lot of chemical spraying…
        colechristensen 1y ago
        >expeller-propelled An expeller is just a screw press. Get your terminology right if you're going to chase the latest food demonizing fad. And yes, lots of oils are extracted by mashing up biologicals mixing it with a solvent like hexane and then evaporating off the solvent leaving a trace <1ppm behind. I filled my gas tank today and did some spray painting without entirely appropriate ventilation. I'm sure most people regularly expose themselves to a little bit of organic solvent on a regular basis without a second thought or moralizing about it.
- glenstein 1y ago
  >Meat Isn't that the ingredient in lab grown salmon? Also things you're calling "much less recognizable" are basically varieties of vegetable oil.

All of the things in meat loaf are recognizably food. Meat, bread, eggs, dairy, onion, herbs, spices. Industrial food has a lot of things which are much less recognizable as food. Degrees of separation from something alive which I'd like to eat to the ingredient matters to plenty of people.

i_love_retros 1y ago
How is eating eggs not gross? It's a chickens egg... And milk from a cows udder, how is that not gross? You know there's puss and blood in cows milk because they all have raw infected udders from being milked non stop by a machine? Enjoy your meatloaf!
- juanani 1y ago
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- colechristensen 1y ago
  In general I do not find eating animals or animal products offputting. I am an animal, I eat animals. The disconnect from nature caused by your entire diet being boxed and shrinkwrapped gives a person strange perspectives on biological reality. Vegitables are grown IN THE DIRT THEY ARE BY DEFINITION DIRTY, FIGS CONTAIN DIGESTED WASPS, nearly every agricultural product contains at least a little bit of BUGS, FRUIT IS THE REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS OF A FLOWER. Sigh.
  - bowmessage 1y ago
    Well said. I will never understand how so many defend the expeller-propelled and solvent laden oils as somehow pleasant and natural…
    - colechristensen 1y ago
      You think squeezing something to get the oil out is unpleasant and unnatural? I don't know what to do with that, it's nearly as absurd as saying cutting food with a knife is gross and unnatural, you should use your teeth instead.
      - bowmessage 1y ago
        Have you looked up how seed oils are made? There’s very little squeezing and a lot of chemical spraying…
        colechristensen 1y ago
        >expeller-propelled An expeller is just a screw press. Get your terminology right if you're going to chase the latest food demonizing fad. And yes, lots of oils are extracted by mashing up biologicals mixing it with a solvent like hexane and then evaporating off the solvent leaving a trace <1ppm behind. I filled my gas tank today and did some spray painting without entirely appropriate ventilation. I'm sure most people regularly expose themselves to a little bit of organic solvent on a regular basis without a second thought or moralizing about it.
glenstein 1y ago
>Meat Isn't that the ingredient in lab grown salmon? Also things you're calling "much less recognizable" are basically varieties of vegetable oil.