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The climate report that the Australian government penned is apparently so grim that the experts who have been privy to it have publicly stated that it's far wor

The climate report that the Australian government penned is apparently so grim that the experts who have been privy to it have publicly stated that it's far worse than anyone is willing to discuss. And of course, it's still being blocked from release. I feel that a lot of governments seem to be accelerating back to full speed with traditional anti-climate practices, and it makes me wonder if those that hold the keys know that the writing is on the wall and have let go of the reigns.

wiredpancake 1y ago
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- chad_c 1y ago
  Who profits from lying about the acceleration of climate change?
  - deleted 1y ago
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  - AlexandrB 1y ago
    To play devil's advocate: China. Not only does China profit because it's a key supplier of renewable technologies, but increasing the cost of energy in other countries while continuing to heavily rely on coal themselves[1] makes them more competitive for manufacturing. [1] https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-why-china-is-still-building-new-coal-and-when-it-might-stop/ https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-why-china-is-still-bu...
    - toomuchtodo 1y ago
      China is decreasing the cost of energy by manufacturing clean energy, battery storage, and EVs at scale. China builds new coal plants as peakers, but is also installing as much new clean energy in a year as most countries have built ever. No need to blame them for the laziness and incompetence of the supposed developed world. If you don’t buy solar and batteries (the cheapest source of new power in ~97% of the world as of this comment), yes, your energy will cost more than China’s. Make better policy choices? https://apnews.com/article/climate-change-solar-wind-power-fossil-fuels-6aca4846e594ea8405f91edda39a03ad https://apnews.com/article/climate-change-solar-wind-power-f... https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/solar-electricity-every-hour-of-every-day-is-here-and-it-changes-everything/ https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/solar-electricity-e... https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=ember-energy.org https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=ember-energy.org
      - King-Aaron 1y ago
        Everything is "free market" to climate change deniers until you talk about solar and battery technology, and then it's all a conspiracy apparently.
        toomuchtodo 1y ago
        Humans are weird. Ah, well, onward.
    - exe34 1y ago
      so why would hiding the accelerating doom be in favour of China?
- qinsig 1y ago
  I don't understand how you can have such casual ignorance about climate change in 2025?
  - King-Aaron 1y ago
    They are a bad faith poster.
- King-Aaron 1y ago
  I'm afraid to say that you are either being wilfully ignorant or intentionally obtuse
bayesianbot 1y ago
Had to look it up, here's a story about the missing report if anyone's interested: https://greens.org.au/news/media-release/if-minister-bowen-serious-about-climate-change-he-must-release-missing-climate https://greens.org.au/news/media-release/if-minister-bowen-s...
klipklop 1y ago
> The climate report that the Australian government penned is apparently so grim that the experts who have been privy to it have publicly stated that it's far worse than anyone is willing to discuss. Or they are not releasing it because their data is likely not reliable. Almost everything the Australian government produces like this is agenda (neo-feudalism, anti freedom) driven and almost never is in favor of the common person. I am not a climate change denier, I do believe we are messing up the environment at a rapid pace. I do question the methods and motives of these countries where their solutions are to take away arbitrary freedoms and in exchange do nothing to actually fix the problem. As long as we pay more taxes we will be all saved right?
- exe34 1y ago
  so which is it, data is not reliable or agenda?
- King-Aaron 1y ago
  Quote: Sources familiar with the modelling, who asked for anonymity to speak about sensitive government information, described some of the scenarios outlined in the report – known as the National Climate Risk Assessment – as “dire”, “diabolical” and “extremely confronting”. https://www.afr.com/policy/energy-and-climate/labor-keeps-dire-climate-report-under-wraps-20250808-p5mliz https://www.afr.com/policy/energy-and-climate/labor-keeps-di...
- RA_Fisher 1y ago
  Why can’t they release it and let people decide for themselves?
  - ryan-c 1y ago
    > There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!

wiredpancake 1y ago

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chad_c 1y ago
Who profits from lying about the acceleration of climate change?
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]
- AlexandrB 1y ago
  To play devil's advocate: China. Not only does China profit because it's a key supplier of renewable technologies, but increasing the cost of energy in other countries while continuing to heavily rely on coal themselves[1] makes them more competitive for manufacturing. [1] https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-why-china-is-still-building-new-coal-and-when-it-might-stop/ https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-why-china-is-still-bu...
  - toomuchtodo 1y ago
    China is decreasing the cost of energy by manufacturing clean energy, battery storage, and EVs at scale. China builds new coal plants as peakers, but is also installing as much new clean energy in a year as most countries have built ever. No need to blame them for the laziness and incompetence of the supposed developed world. If you don’t buy solar and batteries (the cheapest source of new power in ~97% of the world as of this comment), yes, your energy will cost more than China’s. Make better policy choices? https://apnews.com/article/climate-change-solar-wind-power-fossil-fuels-6aca4846e594ea8405f91edda39a03ad https://apnews.com/article/climate-change-solar-wind-power-f... https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/solar-electricity-every-hour-of-every-day-is-here-and-it-changes-everything/ https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/solar-electricity-e... https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=ember-energy.org https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=ember-energy.org
    - King-Aaron 1y ago
      Everything is "free market" to climate change deniers until you talk about solar and battery technology, and then it's all a conspiracy apparently.
      - toomuchtodo 1y ago
        Humans are weird. Ah, well, onward.
  - exe34 1y ago
    so why would hiding the accelerating doom be in favour of China?
qinsig 1y ago
I don't understand how you can have such casual ignorance about climate change in 2025?
- King-Aaron 1y ago
  They are a bad faith poster.
King-Aaron 1y ago
I'm afraid to say that you are either being wilfully ignorant or intentionally obtuse

bayesianbot 1y ago

Had to look it up, here's a story about the missing report if anyone's interested: https://greens.org.au/news/media-release/if-minister-bowen-serious-about-climate-change-he-must-release-missing-climate https://greens.org.au/news/media-release/if-minister-bowen-s...

klipklop 1y ago

> The climate report that the Australian government penned is apparently so grim that the experts who have been privy to it have publicly stated that it's far worse than anyone is willing to discuss. Or they are not releasing it because their data is likely not reliable. Almost everything the Australian government produces like this is agenda (neo-feudalism, anti freedom) driven and almost never is in favor of the common person. I am not a climate change denier, I do believe we are messing up the environment at a rapid pace. I do question the methods and motives of these countries where their solutions are to take away arbitrary freedoms and in exchange do nothing to actually fix the problem. As long as we pay more taxes we will be all saved right?

exe34 1y ago
so which is it, data is not reliable or agenda?
King-Aaron 1y ago
Quote: Sources familiar with the modelling, who asked for anonymity to speak about sensitive government information, described some of the scenarios outlined in the report – known as the National Climate Risk Assessment – as “dire”, “diabolical” and “extremely confronting”. https://www.afr.com/policy/energy-and-climate/labor-keeps-dire-climate-report-under-wraps-20250808-p5mliz https://www.afr.com/policy/energy-and-climate/labor-keeps-di...
RA_Fisher 1y ago
Why can’t they release it and let people decide for themselves?
- ryan-c 1y ago
  > There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!