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It took a lot of digging to find which plant based ingredients, but they include color and flavor: https://www.wildtypefoods.com/faqs/why-are-there-other-ingre
by conradev 1y ago
It took a lot of digging to find which plant based ingredients, but they include color and flavor:
https://www.wildtypefoods.com/faqs/why-are-there-other-ingredients-besides-cells-in-wildtype-salmon https://www.wildtypefoods.com/faqs/why-are-there-other-ingre...
- bowmessage 1y agoThank you for the link. Canola and sunflower oils, soy, and "natural flavors". Definitely skipping this one. I wish they'd just sell the fish cells, alone. Would love to try that.
- jazzyjackson 1y agoI wonder if roe would be feasible
- tptacek 1y agoCanola, sunflower, and soy are some of the most widely consumed foods on the planet; presumably far exceeding consumption of salmon.
- themafia 1y agoThis wasn't always the case. It makes it easy to wonder if there's a connection between that fact and the types of diseases, particularly auto immune and inflammatory diseases, that occur in the population.
- tptacek 1y agoThis is an extremely studied question.
- rayiner 1y agoI tried to get my parents to switch from canola—universally used in India and Bangladesh these days—to time-tested mustard oil, and they were like “mhmm.” :-/
- tptacek 1y agoThat's ironic, because rapeseed and mustard seed oils are about as closely related as any two food oils can be.
- rayiner 1y agoOther than the genetic engineering and solvent-based extraction of canola oil. But yes, that was my parents reaction as well. Regardless, it’s just butter, ghee, and sometimes olive or avocado oil at my house. Because food and cleanliness taboos are sub-scientific.
- bowmessage 1y agoTotally agree with you. I do not understand how this viewpoint upsets people.
- KempyKolibri 1y agoI don’t think people eating butter instead of canola oil is what upsets people. It’s people ignoring the mountain of evidence that such a switch would be a backwards step for health outcomes and claiming the opposite because they read a book by the usual rogues’ gallery of science misinterpreters (Taubes, Teicholz, Shanahan).
- shlant 1y agoant-seed oil is anti-scientific and prays on people being ignorant about the research on health outcomes and relies on emotional appeals and appeals to nature such as "the genetic engineering and solvent-based extraction of canola oil".
- themafia 1y agoThen it's results would be easy to summarize. Yet, I'm finding no such simple summary, nor good agreement between studies. It's not like this is a multi billion dollar a year industry so that's a very confusing outcome. /s
- antonvs 1y agoThis is the sort of “logic” that people like RFK Jr. use. What’s the evidence for the connection you’re trying to make?
- timeon 1y ago> This wasn't always the case. This is pretty vague. Similarly ~50 years ago, people were not eating as much meat as they do today.
- KempyKolibri 1y agoIf one is going to make sweeping generalisations based on cross sectional data, you have to be open to all the sweeping generalisations. So is it also easy to wonder if there’s a connection between high canola consumption and the fact we’re living longer than ever?
- lagniappe 1y agoOkay? Many of us don't care for that.
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- glenstein 1y agoFarm salmon is artificially colored, and the feedstock they're raised on includes the same oils. Smoked and canned salmon are often packaged with similar oils and flavor additives.
- bowmessage 1y agoHorrible, right? I avoid those too.
- glenstein 1y agoI base my choices on health outcomes rather than vibes.
- Slevin11 1y agoThis is a very silly take. If you consume any animal foods raised in the US, you are consuming canola / rapeseed meal, soybeans (90% of soy grown in the us is used to create animal feed), and sunflower seed / meal already. You are consuming it in a condensed secondary form (one tropic level up). It seems exceptionally backwards to be worried about eating any of these foods when the animals you eat are essentially just condensed versions of these ingredients where any downside effects would have accumulated heavily. Also canola oil is now considered on par or healthier than olive oil. Soybeans are one of the worlds few complete plant protein sources with a high quality protein and widely consumed all over the world to both animals and humans to much beneficial effect. Sunflower oil is the least healthy thing here, but still considered quite healthy without excessive heating.
- whycome 1y agoMany “beef burgers” have filler included like soy and wheat.
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- seanwilson 1y ago> You are consuming it in a condensed secondary form (one tropic level up). I always find this is looked over and a double standard. You can raise an animal on a diet of anything along with medication, drugs, and supplements, and advocates will label the beef/chicken/pork product as "meat" and "natural" as if it was a single pure ingredient. But then if a non-meat alternative like a burger is mentioned, every individual ingredient used gets scrutinized, even if that ingredient is often fed to farm animals like soy or grain.
- glenstein 1y agoThis, in my opinion, is the most important point in the thread and the clearest expression of it. For purposes of this argument, meat is conceived of essentially as a single ingredient, and the raising of the animal in artificial conditions, on hormones, fed on processed food with its associated environmental footprints are kind of sidestepped, while alternatives have to answer for every step in the chain of production. That mapping seems correct to me, as a lot of the objections here are free-floating one-offs that presume these background assumptions more so than they are apples to apples comparisons intent on clearly comparing them in totality.
- someuser2345 1y ago> I wish they'd just sell the fish cells, alone. Would love to try that. They already sell those at the seafood aisle.
- neurostimulant 1y ago> In addition to water and cell-cultivated salmon, our saku contains fats derived from canola, sunflower seeds, and algae, soy (an allergen), potato starch, konjac (a root vegetable), beta-carotene and lycopene (natural colors), carrageenan (an extract from red seaweed), and natural flavors. So, basically a salmon-flavored jelly? I'm actually ok with this as long as there is no harmful substances involved. I wonder how's the texture once it's cooked or grilled.