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It's not about beliefs. It's about slippery slopes. As we've seen with incandescent light bulbs and plastic straws, "free market" is only temporary, until the
by tomp 1y ago
It's not about beliefs. It's about slippery slopes.
As we've seen with incandescent light bulbs and plastic straws, "free market" is only temporary, until the "bad" thing simply gets banned.
They're just pre-emptively banning artificial meat, to prevent real meat from being banned!
- MostlyStable 1y agoIf that's the goal, why not pass a law saying that real meat products are not allowed to be banned?
- VladVladikoff 1y agoUntil a law says that they can be banned? Seems like a typical pointless virtue signalling waste of time. What’s the point to pass a law that is already the law?
- trenchpilgrim 1y agoThat's a common thing in the US - a state level law restricting the laws a county or city can create.
- delecti 1y agoIs this meant to be a straw man or a steel man of that position? The idea of preemptively banning something so it can't become better than the status quo seems ludicrous.
- tomp 1y agoPlastic straws are better, as are incandescent light bulbs. The proof is in the pudding / free market. If the alternatives (paper straws, LED bulbs) were better, people would voluntarily buy them! (cf: mobile phones vs. stationary phones, almost noone has the latter these days, because the former are just - better!) Instead, they're banned because they're better.
- tyleo 1y agoThat seems like bs to me. Normal people aren’t really buying much straws and I don’t know anyone still preferring the incandescent bulbs except maybe in some Christmas varieties. edit: I looked into it and incandescent bulbs aren’t normally preferred but there’s a small following. Even the following admits LED bulbs have a lot of benefits. It seems they just don’t like all the colors.
- cosmic_cheese 1y agoIncandescent bulbs produce pleasant light, but there are LED bulbs that have high CRI’s that the discerning consumer can opt to buy. The best thing to do here in my opinion is to encourage improvement of LED bulb tech by buying the nicer ones instead of cheaping out on low CRI bulbs.
- SoftTalker 1y agoLED bulbs are about 10x the price and don’t last any longer. That’s what I don’t like. I’d buy them if the cost the same or close, or lasted substantially longer.
- acdha 1y agoCitation needed on both points. The LED bulbs I'm using right now were less than double the price when I bought my house 15 years ago and while every incandescent and CFL bulb in the house has failed and been replaced since then, the LED bulbs I bought are still going strong and have paid for themselves many times over with 90% reduction in electricity usage.
- rectang 1y agoAnecdotally, the LED bulbs I've bought from Ace Hardware (BR30 for 65 watt recessed kitchen lighting, and A19 for 75 watt classic bulbs) have consistently failed on order-of-months timescales similar to incandescents. Same with some Feit A19s from a few years back. But they cost more than incandescents! Apparently the market tolerates this garbage even though LEDs are supposed to be a superior technology and last longer (and some I've bought years ago have, I just don't remember the brand and it was in another house). Perhaps Ace is practicing planned obsolescence and taking advantage of their customers' expectations that "light bulbs get replaced"?
- trenchpilgrim 1y agoThat makes as much sense as banning cars to protect the railroads
- BurningFrog 1y ago"We had to destroy the village in order to save it."