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Rails has bad spa suppott.

by revskill 1y ago

ccakes 1y ago
Is that a bug.. or a feature? Probably the latter
- revskill 1y ago
  U know, nothing beats SPA right ?
  - andrei_says_ 1y ago
    …In keeping lots of people employed. All that extra complexity is great for the economy.
    - delfinom 1y ago
      God, I had to deal with a junior we hired that wanted and attempt to SPA all the forms on a intranet application form. I struggled to explain I would now have to spend 4 hours updating dependencies, maintaining a node js pipeline and dealing with typescript all because you couldn't handle adding a new fucking single form input to a form with only 3 existing inputs, which would have taken only 3 lines of code between the HTML and C#. The cake was this is an intranet app where the entire form only gets used a few times a year at best.
      - Pxtl 1y ago
        That shouldn't even be web application you should have some kind of off-the-shelf CMS already in use that you can rely on for forms like that.
dismalaf 1y ago
SPAs are one of those things that few apps truly need. And honestly, these days, if I thought I truly needed an SPA I'd probably just write it in a compiled language that spits out WASM. But Rails is hard to beat for CRUD apps.
- thewebguyd 1y ago
  > But Rails is hard to beat for CRUD apps. I'm honestly surprised it didn't take off massively for internal enterprise CRUD stuff. It's by far the most productive stack I've ever used, the second closest being .NET w/ EntityFramework. It was the darling of the early SaaS explosion of the early 2000s, and then just kind of died off in hype. I like that it's opinionated, stops be from going down rabbit holes, and batteries included. There's nothing in the JS/TS framework of the day world that leaves me wondering "hmm, maybe I should stop using rails for this." It all seems worse, somehow, despite being more "modern."
  - dismalaf 1y ago
    It's difficult for enterprise to bet against C# or Java and I kind of get it. Following the crowd is a form of hedging your own career, if things go south you won't get fired for it, but if you bet on an obscure language and framework with no support you will.
pier25 1y ago
It has bad support for anything that isn’t html.
nik736 1y ago
There is the API only mode :-)

Rails has bad spa suppott.

ccakes 1y ago

Is that a bug.. or a feature? Probably the latter

revskill 1y ago
U know, nothing beats SPA right ?
- andrei_says_ 1y ago
  …In keeping lots of people employed. All that extra complexity is great for the economy.
  - delfinom 1y ago
    God, I had to deal with a junior we hired that wanted and attempt to SPA all the forms on a intranet application form. I struggled to explain I would now have to spend 4 hours updating dependencies, maintaining a node js pipeline and dealing with typescript all because you couldn't handle adding a new fucking single form input to a form with only 3 existing inputs, which would have taken only 3 lines of code between the HTML and C#. The cake was this is an intranet app where the entire form only gets used a few times a year at best.
    - Pxtl 1y ago
      That shouldn't even be web application you should have some kind of off-the-shelf CMS already in use that you can rely on for forms like that.

dismalaf 1y ago

SPAs are one of those things that few apps truly need. And honestly, these days, if I thought I truly needed an SPA I'd probably just write it in a compiled language that spits out WASM. But Rails is hard to beat for CRUD apps.

thewebguyd 1y ago
> But Rails is hard to beat for CRUD apps. I'm honestly surprised it didn't take off massively for internal enterprise CRUD stuff. It's by far the most productive stack I've ever used, the second closest being .NET w/ EntityFramework. It was the darling of the early SaaS explosion of the early 2000s, and then just kind of died off in hype. I like that it's opinionated, stops be from going down rabbit holes, and batteries included. There's nothing in the JS/TS framework of the day world that leaves me wondering "hmm, maybe I should stop using rails for this." It all seems worse, somehow, despite being more "modern."
- dismalaf 1y ago
  It's difficult for enterprise to bet against C# or Java and I kind of get it. Following the crowd is a form of hedging your own career, if things go south you won't get fired for it, but if you bet on an obscure language and framework with no support you will.

pier25 1y ago

It has bad support for anything that isn’t html.

nik736 1y ago

There is the API only mode :-)