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Why couldn’t you have a China town or brownstone? If the infrastructure is unsafe for cars, don’t allow cars there.

pixl97 1y ago
I mean, seems like a smart idea until you realize at least the US is a democracy (well hopefully still) and the moment you tell people they can't drive their car home they will vote you out or lynch you. So there's that. Unfortunately the answer isn't going to be telling people they can't do something. We already don't give a damn about the number of deaths we cause, so the actual answer is probably somewhere closer to attempting to educate people so eventually we won't want it.
- CalRobert 1y ago
  Usually the problem is the locals do want traffic calming but they are overruled by suburbanites who have more power and want to force their cars in to old neighbourhoods (and then complain about parking)
potato3732842 1y ago
Because you people and the sum total of the "well intentioned" regulation you peddle across the myriad of issues you peddle it render the kind of organic incremental and piecemeal development that yields those sorts of neighborhoods an economic non-starter.
- CalRobert 1y ago
  … huh?
renewiltord 1y ago
Haha, it's clearly beyond my ability to explain this to you. You're just going to have to try it and learn. But I'll give it one last try: One can only hope that you're either exceptional enough to succeed or that when you fail you understand that it wasn't because "suburbanites ruined a perfect plan because they can't imagine a blah blah blah" and learn that you're constraint solving in a democracy where other people have voices and your perfect solution needs to have graceful degradation as it makes allowances for their opinions so that it can get sufficient support to pass. If all you do is create additional liability with grandfathering in of existing designs, all you do is lead to propagation of current designs.

I mean, seems like a smart idea until you realize at least the US is a democracy (well hopefully still) and the moment you tell people they can't drive their car home they will vote you out or lynch you. So there's that. Unfortunately the answer isn't going to be telling people they can't do something. We already don't give a damn about the number of deaths we cause, so the actual answer is probably somewhere closer to attempting to educate people so eventually we won't want it.

CalRobert 1y ago
Usually the problem is the locals do want traffic calming but they are overruled by suburbanites who have more power and want to force their cars in to old neighbourhoods (and then complain about parking)

potato3732842 1y ago

Because you people and the sum total of the "well intentioned" regulation you peddle across the myriad of issues you peddle it render the kind of organic incremental and piecemeal development that yields those sorts of neighborhoods an economic non-starter.

CalRobert 1y ago
… huh?

renewiltord 1y ago

Haha, it's clearly beyond my ability to explain this to you. You're just going to have to try it and learn. But I'll give it one last try: One can only hope that you're either exceptional enough to succeed or that when you fail you understand that it wasn't because "suburbanites ruined a perfect plan because they can't imagine a blah blah blah" and learn that you're constraint solving in a democracy where other people have voices and your perfect solution needs to have graceful degradation as it makes allowances for their opinions so that it can get sufficient support to pass. If all you do is create additional liability with grandfathering in of existing designs, all you do is lead to propagation of current designs.