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Elegant mathematics bending the future of design
- ughain 1y agoThis is not special or impressive. The video shows a triangle sketch following a closed curve, makes matching tangency seem like something special, then fast forwards to flattening the three faces of the resultant shape. It's like...uh... Yeah, so, possible forever, used regularly, what's the biggie?
- jeffrallen 1y agoThey show comparisons of the best current algorithms to their results, and theirs are better. Science moves forward incrementally. Also, this algorithm makes a real physical difference in the world. Cool!
- mkl 1y agoYou missed the whole point. The surfaces are developable, which means they can be cut from a flat sheet and curved into the shape, with no stretching or folding. It is special and impressive.
- galaxyLogic 1y agoDoes it mean the individual pieces can be forced into a curved surface? Or that the individual pieces will remain flat but can be joined with others in an angle to produce the curve? In other words I guess my question is can the material itself be non-bendable, as long as its cuttable?
- jeffrallen 1y agoThese are even more beautiful in real life. I don't know why they didn't show it, but the same lab has also built a structure of tubes made of bamboo strips that arch up and over a seating area into a dome. The tubes start at planters and there are vines growing up onto the structure. It's my new favorite thing in my neighborhood. Thanks EPFL!
- tweakimp 1y agoCan you share a picture of that arch?
- coldsmoke 1y agoI think it's this: https://bamx.epfl.ch/ https://bamx.epfl.ch/ Looks very cool indeed
- jeffrallen 1y agoSpecifically this one: https://bamx.epfl.ch/bamx-green-elysee/ https://bamx.epfl.ch/bamx-green-elysee/ ...which is the most photogenic of them all.
- mkl 1y agoThey didn't show it because it doesn't use this C-Tube technique.
- jdleesmiller 1y agoThere are many more and interesting examples in the paper [1], which is open access. [1] https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3730933 https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3730933
- bazzargh 1y agothe paper also has a website with a longer supplemental video than the one linked to above, includes most of the examples from the paper but animated https://www.epfl.ch/labs/gcm/research-projects/c-tubes/ https://www.epfl.ch/labs/gcm/research-projects/c-tubes/
- paul_h 1y agoAir ducts (mostly hidden in cavities or attics) could get some disruption from c-tubes. You'd glue the cut sections of flat polyprepylene into c-tubes. Not quite sure what the angle joiners would look like. They can't assume 90 degrees .. or can they for a subset of uses?
- JKCalhoun 1y agoMy only critique is that I expect there is a lot of "cut off" when they fabricate these flat pieces from rectangular stock. (I assume the shape of the pieces are not optimized for nesting within one another when laid out on the original flat stock — picturing all kinds of odd, curved scraps.) Presumably the cutoff material is recyclable though. EDIT: many of the examples look "sectional" where, I suppose, if you reduce the shapes down to enough sections you can make better use of sheet stock — the tradeoff of course being you need to add more joints requiring fastening and perhaps loss of strength.
- seemaze 1y ago>"In the end, we intend to relieve designers from worrying about fabrication so that they can focus on aesthetics and function" I will argue that the foremost problem in the discipline of design is that many don't 'worry about fabrication' enough.
- quesera 1y agoI think they agree with you, and that's why they're doing what they're doing: > This is an important development because one of the biggest challenges in design is making sure that a shape is actually buildable. The article is saying "we propose a solution to this problem".
- wben 1y agoA general solution to fitting flat material to 3d surfaces is available here: https://laminadesign.com/ https://laminadesign.com/ This software uses dynamic programing to minimize the bending energy needed to fit a ring of 3d points.