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There are AI agents that train from knowledge bases but also keep improving on actual conversations. For example, our Mava bot actually learns from mods directl

There are AI agents that train from knowledge bases but also keep improving on actual conversations. For example, our Mava bot actually learns from mods directly within Discord servers. So it's not about replacing human mods but assist them so they can take better care of users in the end.

pluc 1y ago
I don't see how this is any different than enriching knowledge bases from feedback and experience. You just find yourself duplicating all the information, locking yourself in your AI vendor and investing in a technology that doesn't add anything to what you had before. It's utterly nonsensical.
- hereme888 1y ago
  You're going to browse through a manual every time you need to fix something in some app in some particular OS version? I want: > Respond with terminal command to do X >> `complex terminal command code block` > oh we need to run that on all such and such files >> script.py
  - pluc 1y ago
    > You're going to browse through a manual every time you need to fix something in some app in some particular OS version? Yes, that's literally how you learn things. I can't understand how anyone on this forum thinks otherwise. Hackers are supposed to be people who thrive in unknown contexts, who thirst for knowledge of how things work. What you are suggesting is brain atrophy. It's the death of knowledge for profit and productivity. Fuck all of that.
    - hereme888 1y ago
      My cognitive energies are reserved for other things. This is the point of AI: do boring tasks so humans can spend their energy on loftier/more important things.
      - bluefirebrand 1y ago
        If you can't be bothered to do the boring stuff ever, you won't ever develop the skills that you need to make anything loftier They might be boring but they are nonetheless foundational
        hereme888 1y ago
        But the point is that the boring things I refer to are not foundational or even related to my field. I have zero formal education in computers. LLMs are my personal IT experts, for pennies on the dollar. I'm not interested in formally learning programming, yet vibe-code apps I want.
        bluefirebrand 1y ago
        > I'm not interested in formally learning programming, yet vibe-code apps I want. In that case I'm really not sure why professional software developers should be interested in your opinion on the technology at all
        hereme888 1y ago
        I don't understand how your comment is related to anything I've said. "AI is great for customer service" is a statement that can be made by anyone who has experienced both LLMs and human reps.

pluc 1y ago

I don't see how this is any different than enriching knowledge bases from feedback and experience. You just find yourself duplicating all the information, locking yourself in your AI vendor and investing in a technology that doesn't add anything to what you had before. It's utterly nonsensical.

hereme888 1y ago
You're going to browse through a manual every time you need to fix something in some app in some particular OS version? I want: > Respond with terminal command to do X >> `complex terminal command code block` > oh we need to run that on all such and such files >> script.py
- pluc 1y ago
  > You're going to browse through a manual every time you need to fix something in some app in some particular OS version? Yes, that's literally how you learn things. I can't understand how anyone on this forum thinks otherwise. Hackers are supposed to be people who thrive in unknown contexts, who thirst for knowledge of how things work. What you are suggesting is brain atrophy. It's the death of knowledge for profit and productivity. Fuck all of that.
  - hereme888 1y ago
    My cognitive energies are reserved for other things. This is the point of AI: do boring tasks so humans can spend their energy on loftier/more important things.
    - bluefirebrand 1y ago
      If you can't be bothered to do the boring stuff ever, you won't ever develop the skills that you need to make anything loftier They might be boring but they are nonetheless foundational
      - hereme888 1y ago
        But the point is that the boring things I refer to are not foundational or even related to my field. I have zero formal education in computers. LLMs are my personal IT experts, for pennies on the dollar. I'm not interested in formally learning programming, yet vibe-code apps I want.
        bluefirebrand 1y ago
        > I'm not interested in formally learning programming, yet vibe-code apps I want. In that case I'm really not sure why professional software developers should be interested in your opinion on the technology at all
        hereme888 1y ago
        I don't understand how your comment is related to anything I've said. "AI is great for customer service" is a statement that can be made by anyone who has experienced both LLMs and human reps.