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The thing with therapy is that it works well if the problem is an imaginary one or from the past. But it's only a band-aid coping mechanism against ongoing real

• protocolture 1y ago
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  • tdeck 1y ago
    The point goku12 was making was that the videos are evidence that such discrimination exists in the real world, not that the videos themselves are the only problem.
    • protocolture 1y ago
      My point is that social media is not indicative of reality.
      • goku12 1y ago
        Oh! It very much is! They're people on the streets. And even if you decide to neglect it, others who associate with you may not. And they may end up treating you in exactly the same way as on social media. I have seen real life examples of it. Besides, it's too imprudent to neglect the lessons of the past like how FB was implicated in the genocide of Rohingyas in Myanmar. And if that wasn't bad enough, the latest AI/LLM filter bubble is conspicuously widening the social fractures like the gender wars to an extreme level.
  • goku12 1y ago
    There! This is exactly what I mean. Your solution for all of mens' problems is therapy, instead of dealing with the sexist/judgemental media that are hard to miss unless you take some special measures prescribed by therapists. It's like the proverbial someone with only a hammer. So let me say this unambiguously - The therapists are not there to clean up the mess that the society insists on inflicting. The first line of defense is to prevent that mess in the first place. Let me demonstrate this with an exaggerated example. Would you say that the solution for SA against women is for them to consult therapists/psychologists after the fact, rather than implementing preventive community measures against SA? Therapy is only for those who couldn't be protected by the preventive measures - in either case. I'm not seriously affected by such videos, because I have reasons. But I also have reasons to call out such dismissive hand waving. And one of those reasons is the damage to the society it inflicts, exemplified by the article that this discussion itself is based on. The often superfluous advise to 'consult a therapist' is an attempt to lay the blame on men with some imagined mental disorder and thus maintain the status quo that leads to scary and painful situations like men allowing their legs to be broken. For that matter, are there enough therapists and psychologists around to deal with so many cases? Is the treatment cheap enough for normal people to afford at all? To be clear, sexism and judgement are not directed only against men. Women and children are also frequently targeted by sexist bullying. I have seen a documentary on women being shamed into doing something similarly horrific, and wondered why anyone would fill them with such insecurity. I have read in horror, the stories of teenagers being bullied into killing themselves. I really do have empathy for all of them. But the solution is clear and the same - It must be addressed by holding the perpetrators accountable. But when it comes to the same against men, the society overwhelmingly tends to take a very dismissive, unsympathetic and outright hostile stance, choosing to blame men instead of introspecting. The casual double standards at display is deeply unsettling. But such selective protections won't harm just the ones being left out. It will bleed over to those who're being protected as well. And I can see clear indications of an entire generation suffering emotionally for it - no exceptions by gender.
    • protocolture 1y ago
      >Your solution for all of mens' problems is therapy What I said was: You can choose not to watch the videos. Social media is optional. > I have seen a documentary on women being shamed into doing something similarly horrific, and wondered why anyone would fill them with such insecurity. I have read in horror, the stories of teenagers being bullied into killing themselves. Women should also log off. Parents need to moderate kids access to social media also.