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On the flip side, your tax dollars made a bad loan. Usually, when a creditor did a bad job underwriting and makes a loan that cannot be repaid, the creditor is

On the flip side, your tax dollars made a bad loan. Usually, when a creditor did a bad job underwriting and makes a loan that cannot be repaid, the creditor is made to eat the cost.

datavirtue 1y ago
This. People want to act like they aren't the government when it does something stupid.
- nickff 1y ago
  Voters have basically no power, and very little incentive to even bother voting wisely. There is abundant evidence that your vote does not matter, and to pretend otherwise is fantasy.
  - stonogo 1y ago
    Why would you claim evidence and not cite any?
  - nickpsecurity 1y ago
    Those of us who voted for the current President have seen him do so much of what he told us he would with so much progress. Even his opponents claim he's done dozens to fifty things in office that they wish didn't happen. Even they agree he's getting a lot done. So, he's proof that our vote counted. I'd rather have a person following Christ with godly character. That plus not taking a bribe and having skill at leading are the Bible's standard for picking rulers. Americans filter them for these rich, elitist egomaniacs. Then, we have to pick the lesser evil on policy grounds until that stops. God works even through the wicked to bless us in some ways, though. That's the bright side.
    - selfhoster11 1y ago
      Trump's character is not what a person following Christ should be. Just his remark that "they let you do anything" to women when you're rich and famous should be evidence of that, let alone the personality cult around him that he built, and the hundreds or thousands of things he's said since 2016.
      - nickpsecurity 1y ago
        I agree on character. His policies lined up more with what we needed, though. While, the Democrats actively censor Christ, the Bible, and people sharing the Gospel ("hate speech" or "harassment") while promoting sins in Romans 1 as public policy and in education. The sins they promote are the same ones that keep showing up in the Old Testament before God destroys that nation. We wanted God, ability to share Christ, the Word, and less sins that get nations destroyed. We got that. We saw both politicians and people on the news praise Jesus for the first time in a long tine. We also saw companies, like Meta, reversing censorship policies they used against Christians and conservarives. That affects me since I lost accounts in big communities just for mentioning Jesus or God's Word.
        dahart 1y ago
        Oh man as someone who is concerned about the censorship and in favor of religious freedom, I really wish we could have a serious discussion about this, but HN probably isn’t the place. Are the sins you’re referring to mainly centered around sexuality, e.g. homosexuality? What happened to caring about adultery, maliciousness, perjury, faithlessness, boastfulness, arrogance, slander and deceit? Those are all things Trump has done and continues to do. Trump’s “character” happens to cover a pretty big subset of the sins mentioned in Romans 1. I’m very curious why people believe Trump’s claims that he’s on the side of Christians, given how often and how severely he misrepresents the truth in order to serve his own power. It is obviously pandering, and as such is deceitful in the name of religion. Doesn’t that concern you gravely? Doesn’t his selling bibles with his name on it, and with gold and camo covers, do anything for you? To me it seems extremely crass, gross, and disrespectful to God, Christ, and the Bible.
        nickpsecurity 1y ago
        You're talking about one person. All the politicians I've seen are wicked. I said plenty often that they should be replaced with people pf godly character. Until then, working with who is in the race (eg Harris vs Trump), have to vote for nobody by that standard. If voting for policy, we look at policies rather than the politician. Progressives have been, at an institutional level, censoring the Gospel as hate speech or harassment, mocking God in media, promoting idolatry/universalism, pushing fornication, promoting child murder (abortion) even financially, pushing LGBT even in elementary school, and recently systematic discrimination against entire groups. They also defend Palestine over Israel when they have to pick a side. They also export sexual immorality to other countries via media and political deals which is exactly what Revelation warns about in Rev. 17:2. The Old Testament shows these same traits... especially idolatry, child murder, and ditching Biblical marriage for perversion... being common threads for the destruction of nations. That Progressives promote these on a policy level, but mock and fight God's design and the Gospel, means we have a clear choice. One party, who is merely pandering, will at least let us share Christ, protect babies from murder, and reverse other damaging trends. Those trends are happening now but didn't under Biden/Harris or Obama.
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  - dml2135 1y ago
    Okay but again — be pissed at the government for making bad loans in the first place, not for writing them off when it is impossible for them to be repaid.

On the flip side, your tax dollars made a bad loan. Usually, when a creditor did a bad job underwriting and makes a loan that cannot be repaid, the creditor is made to eat the cost.

datavirtue 1y ago

This. People want to act like they aren't the government when it does something stupid.

nickff 1y ago
Voters have basically no power, and very little incentive to even bother voting wisely. There is abundant evidence that your vote does not matter, and to pretend otherwise is fantasy.
- stonogo 1y ago
  Why would you claim evidence and not cite any?
- nickpsecurity 1y ago
  Those of us who voted for the current President have seen him do so much of what he told us he would with so much progress. Even his opponents claim he's done dozens to fifty things in office that they wish didn't happen. Even they agree he's getting a lot done. So, he's proof that our vote counted. I'd rather have a person following Christ with godly character. That plus not taking a bribe and having skill at leading are the Bible's standard for picking rulers. Americans filter them for these rich, elitist egomaniacs. Then, we have to pick the lesser evil on policy grounds until that stops. God works even through the wicked to bless us in some ways, though. That's the bright side.
  - selfhoster11 1y ago
    Trump's character is not what a person following Christ should be. Just his remark that "they let you do anything" to women when you're rich and famous should be evidence of that, let alone the personality cult around him that he built, and the hundreds or thousands of things he's said since 2016.
    - nickpsecurity 1y ago
      I agree on character. His policies lined up more with what we needed, though. While, the Democrats actively censor Christ, the Bible, and people sharing the Gospel ("hate speech" or "harassment") while promoting sins in Romans 1 as public policy and in education. The sins they promote are the same ones that keep showing up in the Old Testament before God destroys that nation. We wanted God, ability to share Christ, the Word, and less sins that get nations destroyed. We got that. We saw both politicians and people on the news praise Jesus for the first time in a long tine. We also saw companies, like Meta, reversing censorship policies they used against Christians and conservarives. That affects me since I lost accounts in big communities just for mentioning Jesus or God's Word.
      - dahart 1y ago
        Oh man as someone who is concerned about the censorship and in favor of religious freedom, I really wish we could have a serious discussion about this, but HN probably isn’t the place. Are the sins you’re referring to mainly centered around sexuality, e.g. homosexuality? What happened to caring about adultery, maliciousness, perjury, faithlessness, boastfulness, arrogance, slander and deceit? Those are all things Trump has done and continues to do. Trump’s “character” happens to cover a pretty big subset of the sins mentioned in Romans 1. I’m very curious why people believe Trump’s claims that he’s on the side of Christians, given how often and how severely he misrepresents the truth in order to serve his own power. It is obviously pandering, and as such is deceitful in the name of religion. Doesn’t that concern you gravely? Doesn’t his selling bibles with his name on it, and with gold and camo covers, do anything for you? To me it seems extremely crass, gross, and disrespectful to God, Christ, and the Bible.
        nickpsecurity 1y ago
        You're talking about one person. All the politicians I've seen are wicked. I said plenty often that they should be replaced with people pf godly character. Until then, working with who is in the race (eg Harris vs Trump), have to vote for nobody by that standard. If voting for policy, we look at policies rather than the politician. Progressives have been, at an institutional level, censoring the Gospel as hate speech or harassment, mocking God in media, promoting idolatry/universalism, pushing fornication, promoting child murder (abortion) even financially, pushing LGBT even in elementary school, and recently systematic discrimination against entire groups. They also defend Palestine over Israel when they have to pick a side. They also export sexual immorality to other countries via media and political deals which is exactly what Revelation warns about in Rev. 17:2. The Old Testament shows these same traits... especially idolatry, child murder, and ditching Biblical marriage for perversion... being common threads for the destruction of nations. That Progressives promote these on a policy level, but mock and fight God's design and the Gospel, means we have a clear choice. One party, who is merely pandering, will at least let us share Christ, protect babies from murder, and reverse other damaging trends. Those trends are happening now but didn't under Biden/Harris or Obama.
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- dml2135 1y ago
  Okay but again — be pissed at the government for making bad loans in the first place, not for writing them off when it is impossible for them to be repaid.