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That would make more sense if if there weren't locals who needed intensive care. We have many, many people who fall through the cracks. Why do they take secon

by mc32 1y ago

That would make more sense if if there weren't locals who needed intensive care. We have many, many people who fall through the cracks. Why do they take second place to people 5,000+ miles away? It's cool that they want to be charitable and nice; are their own people not worthwhile helping, if not why not? In addition, if they have all the money and want to help both locals and foreigners, they could do it cheaper by financing this care at places closer to where these people live.

UncleMeat 1y ago
I give a huge amount of money to charity. Most of it is local, but I also give a lot to international causes. Should the government interfere in my ability to do that? It will be difficult to finance care in Gaza given that a lot of the medical infrastructure has been destroyed by bombs. Yes, charitable organizations could coordinate with hospitals in surrounding countries. But is "your charity is inefficient" justification for this sort of government interference? Should some charity who is trying to help people via the infrastructure they know and understand be required to coordinate with third parties?
- mc32 1y ago
  Overall, you should be able to donate to whatever cause is legal for you to donate to. If say, you wanted to send support to Ukraine or alternatively Russia, a sovereign person would be able to. But we all know it's a fool's errand to claim sovereign personhood. Given that we live in nation states and we defer international affairs to the government, whether we like it or not, they call the shots there. US businesses would have loved to have been able to sell into the Iron curtain, but that decision was not one for businesses or individuals. I think if those organizations are fluent enough to arrange to have people fly in, they should also be fluent enough to coordinate with institutions that are more local and also share aspects of culture and language with the patients. If I were in need of help, would I prefer to get treated in a Chinese hospital with Chinese personnel or a a hospital in the Anglosphere with English speaking physicians? I know where I would prefer to go. I would want familiarity.
  - UncleMeat 1y ago
    I do agree that the fascists appear to call the shots. I am saying that I don't like this and I am stunned by the number of people who seem to think that a self described "proud Islamophobe" is advocating for the policy for any reason other than to immiserate muslim people. You can start your own organization to get suffering Gazans treated in Egypt. I'd praise you if you did. But I truly don't see how that option is relevant to the evil being done here.

by mc32 1y ago

UncleMeat 1y ago

I give a huge amount of money to charity. Most of it is local, but I also give a lot to international causes. Should the government interfere in my ability to do that? It will be difficult to finance care in Gaza given that a lot of the medical infrastructure has been destroyed by bombs. Yes, charitable organizations could coordinate with hospitals in surrounding countries. But is "your charity is inefficient" justification for this sort of government interference? Should some charity who is trying to help people via the infrastructure they know and understand be required to coordinate with third parties?

mc32 1y ago
Overall, you should be able to donate to whatever cause is legal for you to donate to. If say, you wanted to send support to Ukraine or alternatively Russia, a sovereign person would be able to. But we all know it's a fool's errand to claim sovereign personhood. Given that we live in nation states and we defer international affairs to the government, whether we like it or not, they call the shots there. US businesses would have loved to have been able to sell into the Iron curtain, but that decision was not one for businesses or individuals. I think if those organizations are fluent enough to arrange to have people fly in, they should also be fluent enough to coordinate with institutions that are more local and also share aspects of culture and language with the patients. If I were in need of help, would I prefer to get treated in a Chinese hospital with Chinese personnel or a a hospital in the Anglosphere with English speaking physicians? I know where I would prefer to go. I would want familiarity.
- UncleMeat 1y ago
  I do agree that the fascists appear to call the shots. I am saying that I don't like this and I am stunned by the number of people who seem to think that a self described "proud Islamophobe" is advocating for the policy for any reason other than to immiserate muslim people. You can start your own organization to get suffering Gazans treated in Egypt. I'd praise you if you did. But I truly don't see how that option is relevant to the evil being done here.