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Yeah, including enterprise grade SSDs and HDDs;) If you push an update that bricks your customers machines you have failed and you have no QA clearly. The bes

Yeah, including enterprise grade SSDs and HDDs;) If you push an update that bricks your customers machines you have failed and you have no QA clearly. The best they can do to save their ass is say "actually you know what these SSD and HDD are all incompatible with W11" and start a new hardware certification program.

hulitu 1y ago
> If you push an update that bricks your customers machines you have failed and you have no QA clearly. They were talking about Microsoft. QA ? Testing ? That's why they have users. /s
gruez 1y ago
>Yeah, including enterprise grade SSDs and HDDs;) "enterprise" doesn't imply reliability, eg. https://www.engadget.com/2020-03-25-hpe-ssd-bricked-firmware-flaw.html https://www.engadget.com/2020-03-25-hpe-ssd-bricked-firmware...
FirmwareBurner 1y ago
>Yeah, including enterprise grade SSDs and HDDs;) The article is light in the details of which are those enterprise grade SSDs
smileybarry 1y ago
I can't find mentions of any enterprise SSDs in the linked Twitter thread, just consumer SSDs ranging from "budget" to "pro" from various brands. The Twitter author later did some basic testing on a list of SSDs and it looks like it's mostly to do with very budget QLC models: https://twitter.com/Necoru_cat/status/1956949132066898080 https://twitter.com/Necoru_cat/status/1956949132066898080 This feels like an extrapolation by the article author based on the fact Phison microcontrollers are also used in enterprise models.
xeromal 1y ago
100%. If you force updates down peoples throats every 5 seconds and then brick a percentage of customers, it's on you.
Ekaros 1y ago
Can trash that breaks be even called enterprise? Then again, maybe in tech world only thing about enterprise is the price.
- throwaway290 1y ago
  I'm with you, I also think it stop being enterprise if you install Windows 11 on it:)
itsmartapuntocm 1y ago
This was the reason they built such an extensive application compatibility shim system into Windows 95. If a poorly coded application breaks on an OS upgrade, the user is going to blame Windows, not the application.

hulitu 1y ago

> If you push an update that bricks your customers machines you have failed and you have no QA clearly. They were talking about Microsoft. QA ? Testing ? That's why they have users. /s

gruez 1y ago

>Yeah, including enterprise grade SSDs and HDDs;) "enterprise" doesn't imply reliability, eg. https://www.engadget.com/2020-03-25-hpe-ssd-bricked-firmware-flaw.html https://www.engadget.com/2020-03-25-hpe-ssd-bricked-firmware...

FirmwareBurner 1y ago

>Yeah, including enterprise grade SSDs and HDDs;) The article is light in the details of which are those enterprise grade SSDs

smileybarry 1y ago

I can't find mentions of any enterprise SSDs in the linked Twitter thread, just consumer SSDs ranging from "budget" to "pro" from various brands. The Twitter author later did some basic testing on a list of SSDs and it looks like it's mostly to do with very budget QLC models: https://twitter.com/Necoru_cat/status/1956949132066898080 https://twitter.com/Necoru_cat/status/1956949132066898080 This feels like an extrapolation by the article author based on the fact Phison microcontrollers are also used in enterprise models.

xeromal 1y ago

100%. If you force updates down peoples throats every 5 seconds and then brick a percentage of customers, it's on you.

Ekaros 1y ago

Can trash that breaks be even called enterprise? Then again, maybe in tech world only thing about enterprise is the price.

throwaway290 1y ago
I'm with you, I also think it stop being enterprise if you install Windows 11 on it:)

itsmartapuntocm 1y ago

This was the reason they built such an extensive application compatibility shim system into Windows 95. If a poorly coded application breaks on an OS upgrade, the user is going to blame Windows, not the application.