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> hardly the migrants fault Of course not, but it's the fault of whoever lobbied for and passed those laws. > we are inviting them. Who is this "we"? It's n

> hardly the migrants fault Of course not, but it's the fault of whoever lobbied for and passed those laws. > we are inviting them. Who is this "we"? It's not the British people.

archagon 1y ago
> It's not the British people. Maybe not you, but plenty of British people support immigration. Believe it or not.
- subsistence234 1y ago
  not the majority. not even close.
- lurker44 1y ago
  > but plenty of British people support immigration. Believe it or not not many i bet has any government ever went to an election with the promise that they are going to increase immigration rates if they are elected, and won? no because its electoral suicide to do so
defrost 1y ago
The British people, of course, includes those British Nationals with English as a first language, who served in the British armed forces in World War Two. The UK government, needing workers to help fill post-war labour shortages and rebuild the economy, invited many British people to come to the metropole. Like all those dark skinned folk of the Windrush generation, and a good number of people who came across to the UK from India and Pakistan. In more recent, pre-Brexit, years that invitation to fill a labour vacuum went out to fellow EU member states.
- subsistence234 1y ago
  the majority of brits did not consent, and it's not even close.
  - defrost 1y ago
    Which group of immigrants are 'the brits' again? The Celts, the Saxons, the Romans, the Danes, the Normans, the French, etc?
    - subsistence234 1y ago
      Ethnic Brits are the people whose majority of ancestors two centuries ago were living on the British Isles. But I was talking about Brits in a wider sense -- the people with British passports and voting rights at the time when those mass migration laws were passed. Which happened against their consent.
      - defrost 1y ago
        Ethnic Brits are immigrants .. all the way down. Wave after wave of them. > the people whose majority of ancestors two centuries ago were living on the British Isles. So .. not the House of Windsor then. > Brits in a wider sense -- Which happened against their consent. Near as I understand British history not much happened with the broad consent of the masses, hence all the castles and defensive structures built to protect "rulers" from "ethnic brits". The people that migrated to Britain in the Windrush generation were also British citizens, if you check your history you may recall a long phase in which the then ethnic British majority (who all originated from outside of Britain having cleansed the prior group of ethnic brits) went about claiming large chunks of other peoples multi-generation lands as their own and dabbling in more than a smidgen of miscegenation. This is just history, beware the seeds you sow, they have a way of coming home to roost.
        subsistence234 1y ago
        nobody is falling for this nonsense anymore.

> hardly the migrants fault Of course not, but it's the fault of whoever lobbied for and passed those laws. > we are inviting them. Who is this "we"? It's not the British people.

archagon 1y ago

> It's not the British people. Maybe not you, but plenty of British people support immigration. Believe it or not.

subsistence234 1y ago
not the majority. not even close.
lurker44 1y ago
> but plenty of British people support immigration. Believe it or not not many i bet has any government ever went to an election with the promise that they are going to increase immigration rates if they are elected, and won? no because its electoral suicide to do so

defrost 1y ago

The British people, of course, includes those British Nationals with English as a first language, who served in the British armed forces in World War Two. The UK government, needing workers to help fill post-war labour shortages and rebuild the economy, invited many British people to come to the metropole. Like all those dark skinned folk of the Windrush generation, and a good number of people who came across to the UK from India and Pakistan. In more recent, pre-Brexit, years that invitation to fill a labour vacuum went out to fellow EU member states.

subsistence234 1y ago
the majority of brits did not consent, and it's not even close.
- defrost 1y ago
  Which group of immigrants are 'the brits' again? The Celts, the Saxons, the Romans, the Danes, the Normans, the French, etc?
  - subsistence234 1y ago
    Ethnic Brits are the people whose majority of ancestors two centuries ago were living on the British Isles. But I was talking about Brits in a wider sense -- the people with British passports and voting rights at the time when those mass migration laws were passed. Which happened against their consent.
    - defrost 1y ago
      Ethnic Brits are immigrants .. all the way down. Wave after wave of them. > the people whose majority of ancestors two centuries ago were living on the British Isles. So .. not the House of Windsor then. > Brits in a wider sense -- Which happened against their consent. Near as I understand British history not much happened with the broad consent of the masses, hence all the castles and defensive structures built to protect "rulers" from "ethnic brits". The people that migrated to Britain in the Windrush generation were also British citizens, if you check your history you may recall a long phase in which the then ethnic British majority (who all originated from outside of Britain having cleansed the prior group of ethnic brits) went about claiming large chunks of other peoples multi-generation lands as their own and dabbling in more than a smidgen of miscegenation. This is just history, beware the seeds you sow, they have a way of coming home to roost.
      - subsistence234 1y ago
        nobody is falling for this nonsense anymore.