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Nudge the door open with child abuse "concern" and then expand to your hearts content later. The analogy of it being like a police officer standing next to you
by globalnode 1y ago
Nudge the door open with child abuse "concern" and then expand to your hearts content later. The analogy of it being like a police officer standing next to you while you chat online to a friend was great. He was joking when he said "lets cancel cars" but it might happen in the distant future. Letting people control heavy projectiles doesnt seem like such a great idea.
- latentsea 1y agoWhen you put "concern" in scare quotes like that... are you saying that there isn't actually anything to be concerned about regarding the safety of children using the internet?
- pqtyw 1y agoPerhaps? But that seems mostly tangential to this specific issue? I mean it's like trying to solve income inequality with by adopting Bolshevist communism...
- globalnode 1y agoof course its concerning, but i doubt its the ultimate objective and it also seems contrived given the other dangers to children that abound.
- latentsea 1y agoI guess you're right. I doubt there are actually any children being prayed on on streaming apps and the like, and even if there are I highly doubt it has any lasting impact on their mental health.
- roer 1y agoThe problem is obviously real, but a lot of people disagree with this proposed solution. Nobody is trying to argue whether child abuse is a problem or not.
- latentsea 1y agoI don't think there's a workable solution that both protects kids and protects society from sliding into 1984. It essentially feels like a referendum on "should we just accept it?" It being whichever over those you think is the lesser over two evils. Figuring that out is an exercise left to the reader.
- irusensei 1y agoMaybe not let your kids unattended on the internet. Require default settings on vendor products to child protected mode, punish parent negligence while in parallel crawl the web for illegal content.
- globalnode 1y agoIts these sorts of straw men that keep the conversation going in the wrong direction.
- latentsea 1y agoStraw man? It happened to my niece on a streaming app. She was 11. It started out as innocently as "what's that shirt you're wearing? Can you show me?" and progressed from there. Straw man my ass. Edit: I'm against the mass surveillance and direction things trending in, but I think either way we are facing a significant negative externality whichever way we choose. Either there's real people suffering real harm, or we're getting screwed by sliding into 1984. Both of those horrible. If we pick one horrible over the other, we're essentially saying "I'm ok accepting this horrible reality in order to avoid a different horrible reality". I just don't think we can have our cake and eat it too on this issue.
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- frm88 1y agoWhy was your 11 year old niece on a streaming service?
- irusensei 1y agoI'd bet is a concern troll. There is no way someone can type that as if it's natural to allow children unattended on a streaming website. We're supposed to be smart around here right? No 11 year old kid of mine would have access to anything other than offline educational material.
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- exe34 1y agoif only these children had parents to raise them. nope can't think of how that would work. it's better to control everybody else.
- latentsea 1y agoHow would that work? Please explain.
- exe34 1y agoparents take an interest in their kids lives. parents talk to them about things that are good and bad for them. it's a novel concept.