> Rust is a language for people who want to be _seen as programmers_. Not people who _actually love programming_. Nice gatekeeping. I happen to actually love p

> Rust is a language for people who want to be _seen as programmers_. Not people who _actually love programming_. Nice gatekeeping. I happen to actually love programming and I pick up languages quickly. Rust has been a fresh breathe of air and I can’t ever see myself going back to the horror show that is the masochism of C++. > How about get an actual published language standard? https://rustfoundation.org/media/ferrous-systems-donates-ferrocene-language-specification-to-rust-project/ https://rustfoundation.org/media/ferrous-systems-donates-fer... But also a language standard means fuck all to me. C and C++ keep generating them and the language doesn’t seem to be getting meaningfully better. > How about get more implementations of it? Why is this important? Python has one central implementation that everyone relies on. So does Java. C++ doesn’t and is plagued by every project either trying to support N platforms across M compilers or just pick clang everywhere (but still be stuck with having unnecessarily complicated platform specific code). > How about fix the utter mess that is cargo? What’s the utter mess? I’ve been using it for a while and haven’t observed anything obscenely problematic. Significantly easier than anything in C++ for sure (maybe Conan but I’ve not seen anyone actually using that in the wild)