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Maybe the word "public" deserves more attention. Taxing people to fund education seems to be reducing the product to glorified day care. Those with means (and

Maybe the word "public" deserves more attention. Taxing people to fund education seems to be reducing the product to glorified day care. Those with means (and I would be one) send their kids to private schools for a variety of reasons. This deserves more analysis.

RHSeeger 1y ago
> Those with means (and I would be one) send their kids to private schools for a variety of reasons. I don't think this is true at all. There are plenty of areas where the public schools do a fantastic job, and plenty of people "with means" sending their children there.
- logicchains 1y ago
  Those are mostly areas where the cost of living prevents the most dysfunctional families/kids from living there.
  - trinix912 1y ago
    Rich people have shithead kids too, I’ve seen this in a country where the rich send their kids to public schools.
notpachet 1y ago
> Those with means (and I would be one) send their kids to private schools for a variety of reasons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma
- ndriscoll 1y ago
  Private schools can reject problem kids, so the "both defect" case doesn't really apply as long as the school is selective (which for schools catering to rich people is the entire point).
threetonesun 1y ago
Public education is considered one of the greatest successes of the 20th century, if you have a better idea might I suggest you and your techno-libertarian brethren try it on the Moon, or whatever other non-Earth body your amazing education has convinced you will support life.
- smitty1e 1y ago
  Judging by the moderation, public education is apparently a sacred cow whose holiness must remain beyond question. I repent of my heathen unbelief.
  - cloverich 1y ago
    Its more that like many great innovations, people take for granted the benefit of some technical or cultural improvement to the point that they question its need in a reductionist way. IE rather than fighting for reform, fighting for elimination of public school entirely, in ways that effectively shift tax benefit towards the well off (ex: school vouchers).
    - smitty1e 1y ago
      Or it may be like everything has a lifecycle, and that of public education has run its course.
impossiblefork 1y ago
Obviously an orderly school is preferable to a disorderly school, but I doubt it's enough. I am completely convinced by the arguments for individual tutoring. I got some in languages and I liked the outcome (it was also a fun social thing to do with my parents). It would have saved a lot of time to also get it in maths, physics, chemistry and biology.

RHSeeger 1y ago

> Those with means (and I would be one) send their kids to private schools for a variety of reasons. I don't think this is true at all. There are plenty of areas where the public schools do a fantastic job, and plenty of people "with means" sending their children there.

logicchains 1y ago
Those are mostly areas where the cost of living prevents the most dysfunctional families/kids from living there.
- trinix912 1y ago
  Rich people have shithead kids too, I’ve seen this in a country where the rich send their kids to public schools.

notpachet 1y ago

> Those with means (and I would be one) send their kids to private schools for a variety of reasons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma

ndriscoll 1y ago
Private schools can reject problem kids, so the "both defect" case doesn't really apply as long as the school is selective (which for schools catering to rich people is the entire point).

threetonesun 1y ago

Public education is considered one of the greatest successes of the 20th century, if you have a better idea might I suggest you and your techno-libertarian brethren try it on the Moon, or whatever other non-Earth body your amazing education has convinced you will support life.

smitty1e 1y ago
Judging by the moderation, public education is apparently a sacred cow whose holiness must remain beyond question. I repent of my heathen unbelief.
- cloverich 1y ago
  Its more that like many great innovations, people take for granted the benefit of some technical or cultural improvement to the point that they question its need in a reductionist way. IE rather than fighting for reform, fighting for elimination of public school entirely, in ways that effectively shift tax benefit towards the well off (ex: school vouchers).
  - smitty1e 1y ago
    Or it may be like everything has a lifecycle, and that of public education has run its course.

impossiblefork 1y ago

Obviously an orderly school is preferable to a disorderly school, but I doubt it's enough. I am completely convinced by the arguments for individual tutoring. I got some in languages and I liked the outcome (it was also a fun social thing to do with my parents). It would have saved a lot of time to also get it in maths, physics, chemistry and biology.