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Argument from authority is not particularly strong. The information on putty.org is considered misinformation by the vast majority of professionals in the field

Argument from authority is not particularly strong. The information on putty.org is considered misinformation by the vast majority of professionals in the field of infectious diseases.

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wang_li 1y ago
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nailer 1y ago
I thought it was argument from expertise? And while you’re on the topic of epistemology truth isn’t determined by how common an idea is.
- 0manrho 1y ago
  He's not an expert on vaccines or infectious disease and pushed known provably false narratives during the pandemic.
  - nailer 1y ago
    I don't think being a medical and phramaceutical expert disqualifies him speaking about vaccines, do you?
    - f1shy 1y ago
      This is the modern world that we live in. If being “Vice President and Worldwide Head of Research in allergic and respiratory diseases at Pfizer” with 25 years of career does not qualify to talk about vaccines (in the context of of Covid, I assume because I do not know him or the videos), I frankly don’t know what does
      - perching_aix 1y ago
        Like being an expert in virology and vaccine therapies for example. Or being boots on the ground rather than a bean counter. Really doesn't take that much imagination now, does it? Or is this "modern world that we live in" this anemic on imagination power? I'm sure we can then find experts with those kinds of qualifications who also pushed covid misinformation (or to use more old-school terms, straight up fucking lies and unfounded, conspiratorial speculations) and held minority opinions. Then we can lament on how having a minority opinion means your opinion is definitely being unjustly oppressed, as opposed to justly oppressed, which somehow we'll not be able to produce an example for. Does that really matter though if we can just pretend that we do have an example, or even believe outright we do and just not agree? Or maybe we can lament on how just blindly trusting either authority or expertise is possibly not the most solid idea in the world. As if we actually had the option to do otherwise at scale, even in the best case scenario, and all people were magically equal and equipped to do so. Humans and their unattainable reasoning ability. Oh the modern world. Yeah right.
        f1shy 1y ago
        So an expert is exactly the one you want to believe, and no other person, and you tailor the definition just exactly, so only people with your opinion are experts. Everyone has the world the size he deserves…
        perching_aix 1y ago
        At least the reading comprehension monster will never hurt you, that's for sure. Your previous comment makes perfect sense now too, along with why you'd be whinging about oh the modern world.
        f1shy 1y ago
        The truth, reason or wisdom will never catch you. Don’t worry, you are faster and smarter than anyone! Keep going!
    - perching_aix 1y ago
      "God has all positive properties. Existing is a positive property. Therefore God exists." Amazing things happen when you crank up the level of simplification.
account42 1y ago
The irony of complaining about an appeal to authority only to then counter it with an appeal to authority.
- f1shy 1y ago
  In this case more stupidity than irony.

Argument from authority is not particularly strong. The information on putty.org is considered misinformation by the vast majority of professionals in the field of infectious diseases.

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wang_li 1y ago

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nailer 1y ago

I thought it was argument from expertise? And while you’re on the topic of epistemology truth isn’t determined by how common an idea is.

0manrho 1y ago
He's not an expert on vaccines or infectious disease and pushed known provably false narratives during the pandemic.
- nailer 1y ago
  I don't think being a medical and phramaceutical expert disqualifies him speaking about vaccines, do you?
  - f1shy 1y ago
    This is the modern world that we live in. If being “Vice President and Worldwide Head of Research in allergic and respiratory diseases at Pfizer” with 25 years of career does not qualify to talk about vaccines (in the context of of Covid, I assume because I do not know him or the videos), I frankly don’t know what does
    - perching_aix 1y ago
      Like being an expert in virology and vaccine therapies for example. Or being boots on the ground rather than a bean counter. Really doesn't take that much imagination now, does it? Or is this "modern world that we live in" this anemic on imagination power? I'm sure we can then find experts with those kinds of qualifications who also pushed covid misinformation (or to use more old-school terms, straight up fucking lies and unfounded, conspiratorial speculations) and held minority opinions. Then we can lament on how having a minority opinion means your opinion is definitely being unjustly oppressed, as opposed to justly oppressed, which somehow we'll not be able to produce an example for. Does that really matter though if we can just pretend that we do have an example, or even believe outright we do and just not agree? Or maybe we can lament on how just blindly trusting either authority or expertise is possibly not the most solid idea in the world. As if we actually had the option to do otherwise at scale, even in the best case scenario, and all people were magically equal and equipped to do so. Humans and their unattainable reasoning ability. Oh the modern world. Yeah right.
      - f1shy 1y ago
        So an expert is exactly the one you want to believe, and no other person, and you tailor the definition just exactly, so only people with your opinion are experts. Everyone has the world the size he deserves…
        perching_aix 1y ago
        At least the reading comprehension monster will never hurt you, that's for sure. Your previous comment makes perfect sense now too, along with why you'd be whinging about oh the modern world.
        f1shy 1y ago
        The truth, reason or wisdom will never catch you. Don’t worry, you are faster and smarter than anyone! Keep going!
  - perching_aix 1y ago
    "God has all positive properties. Existing is a positive property. Therefore God exists." Amazing things happen when you crank up the level of simplification.

account42 1y ago

The irony of complaining about an appeal to authority only to then counter it with an appeal to authority.

f1shy 1y ago
In this case more stupidity than irony.