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If the EU really wanted an agreement, there would have been an agreement. Put tarrifs on all trade with non compliant nations and their partners. It's not jus
by tonydav 1y ago
If the EU really wanted an agreement, there would have been an agreement.
Put tarrifs on all trade with non compliant nations and their partners.
It's not just the oil states, it's almost all of them.
- Ygg2 1y agoSeeing China criticize Gulf states for torpedoing the agreement is sure something.
- fakedang 1y agoChina is de-oiling at a rapid pace and wants to lead the world in renewables infrastructure production. Which will mean eventually butting heads with the oil producers (which also includes the US). China is also getting cheap Russian oil, and the Gulf states have proven to be unreliable allies for them.
- Ygg2 1y agoIt's the biggest plastic producer complaining about plastic input (oil) sabotaging a plastic deal. I can sen China dumping oil for power generation but there is no way they will switch plastics production on a dime.
- fakedang 1y agoChina doesn't produce plastic as is. They produce plastic products, after buying the plastic from oil producers. The largest plastic raw materials producer is SABIC, a Saudi company. There are currently no viable alternatives for humanity to replace plastics in daily use while still maintaining the low cost of those products. Unless humanity opts for more expensive material to subvert plastic consumption, plastic is going to be used regardless. And China is simply feeding that demand in Western countries with those goods, because those countries want those goods for cheap.
- jasonsb 1y agoThis is the correct answer. It's really sad to see that the west is just a propaganda machine. We don't need the oil states to end plastic or whatnot in our countries. But we sure love to point fingers at various nations in search of a scapegoat.
- thrown-0825 1y agoEU only cares to the degree that is necessary to virtue signal to its citizens. They are still buying natural gas from Russia at record levels lmao.
- martimarkov 1y agoIt never said it will stop right away. It put a target and the process is called phasing out. The same way you migrate away from AWS. You don’t just stop your platform you move over while still using some AWS services.
- thrown-0825 1y agoYou do when that platform invades a sovereign nation, murders its people, and traffics its children.
- cedws 1y agoPhase out buying directly and buy via India instead. Europe is a joke, we have completely failed Ukraine.
- FranzFerdiNaN 1y agoToo easy. Unfortunately it takes forever to decouple, but that doesn’t mean steps aren’t being taken. And yes, we’re all stuck under capitalism so anything that really threatens the profitability of companies will be opposed as much as possible. Combine that with geopolitical events like Americans being the dumbest people possible who elect an openly corrupt authoritarian not once but twice and everything becomes even harder.
- thrown-0825 1y agoLNG imports have dramatically increased since the invasion started. Americans are their own captors, fuck them. Using them as a excuse for EU cowardice is not convincing.
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- elric 1y agoEuropean petrochemical industry is actively expanding its plastic production.