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Yeah, the journey to stimulants for me was long and painful, with a lot of procrastination on my part. And now even having them prescribed it is a pain dealing

by diob 1y ago

Yeah, the journey to stimulants for me was long and painful, with a lot of procrastination on my part. And now even having them prescribed it is a pain dealing with the bureaucratic / expensive nightmare of USA health insurance.

arcfour 1y ago
What does the DEA have to do with US health insurance, exactly?
- gopher_space 1y ago
  They get to decide how many of each pill manufacturers may produce each year, and how they’re controlled.
  - arcfour 1y ago
    Right, so nothing to do with insurance or our system of it.
    - Uehreka 1y ago
      Insurance often refuses to cover ADHD meds, so a lot of us our paying the full price. Which is garbage, and is very much to do with insurance and our system of it.
      - arcfour 1y ago
        That has nothing to do with the DEA though. You're conflating different concerns.
        Uehreka 1y ago
        We’re mad and we have ADHD. We’re not interested in staying on topic.
- Spooky23 1y ago
  They issue licenses for making the drugs and getting the raw materials to make them. The process is inflexible at best and if manufacturer A hits their quota, they can’t get additional raw materials, even if manufacturer B has excess. Like most things associated with drug criminality, the rules are stupid and capricious.
  - arcfour 1y ago
    And this has nothing to do with insurance, but does have to do with government bureaucracy negatively impacting people getting treatment for an illness.
    - Spooky23 1y ago
      Insurance adds another bureaucratic hoops that negatively impacts patient care and outcomes.
    - dodobirdlord 1y ago
      Health insurance prior authorization policy, approved medication lists, and network pharmacy policies complicate maintaining continuous access during the DEA-imposed artificial shortage by complicating transferring prescriptions to pharmacies that have supply available and transferring prescriptions to substantially-equivalent drugs sold by different manufacturers.
    - jrflowers 1y ago
      I like that you’re posting “check and mate the DEA doesn’t do health insurance” as a gotcha when nobody in this entire thread has at any point said that the DEA is directly involved in health insurance. It is like loudly claiming victory that you have established that doctors aren’t in charge of trimming the hedges in your neighborhood
      - arcfour 1y ago
        No, I'm pointing out that people like yourself are unable to recognize (willfully) government interference resulting in negative outcomes with the government interference you champion. Does it hurt to have this level of cognitive dissonance? "Yes, the government is responsible for these awful things. But if it was responsible for even more things, it would be different and good, because someone told me it would!"
yesco 1y ago
I just go through GoodRx now, makes it like $20 per month for my prescription. You don't even need to make an account with them, it's like coupon you don't even need to print out. Just tell the pharmacist you are going to use GoodRx and you are done. My work insurance seems to change all the time, and while going through GoodRx doesn't count towards my deductible, I prefer the price stability. Not fun when I'm randomly told it's $120 now at the pharmacy because my insurance doesn't cover it now for some fucking inane reason. A few phone calls can often resolve it, but it's the last thing I want to do when I'm a day away from withdrawals kicking in. Even more absurd is this is basically guaranteed to happen more than once a year, THERE IS ONLY 12 MONTHS IN A YEAR!
- mh- 1y ago
  GoodRx is genuinely a good deal. There's a paid offering (called Gold, I think?) that makes things cheaper, but whether it pays for itself will depend on what you're filling.

by diob 1y ago

arcfour 1y ago

What does the DEA have to do with US health insurance, exactly?

gopher_space 1y ago
They get to decide how many of each pill manufacturers may produce each year, and how they’re controlled.
- arcfour 1y ago
  Right, so nothing to do with insurance or our system of it.
  - Uehreka 1y ago
    Insurance often refuses to cover ADHD meds, so a lot of us our paying the full price. Which is garbage, and is very much to do with insurance and our system of it.
    - arcfour 1y ago
      That has nothing to do with the DEA though. You're conflating different concerns.
      - Uehreka 1y ago
        We’re mad and we have ADHD. We’re not interested in staying on topic.
Spooky23 1y ago
They issue licenses for making the drugs and getting the raw materials to make them. The process is inflexible at best and if manufacturer A hits their quota, they can’t get additional raw materials, even if manufacturer B has excess. Like most things associated with drug criminality, the rules are stupid and capricious.
- arcfour 1y ago
  And this has nothing to do with insurance, but does have to do with government bureaucracy negatively impacting people getting treatment for an illness.
  - Spooky23 1y ago
    Insurance adds another bureaucratic hoops that negatively impacts patient care and outcomes.
  - dodobirdlord 1y ago
    Health insurance prior authorization policy, approved medication lists, and network pharmacy policies complicate maintaining continuous access during the DEA-imposed artificial shortage by complicating transferring prescriptions to pharmacies that have supply available and transferring prescriptions to substantially-equivalent drugs sold by different manufacturers.
  - jrflowers 1y ago
    I like that you’re posting “check and mate the DEA doesn’t do health insurance” as a gotcha when nobody in this entire thread has at any point said that the DEA is directly involved in health insurance. It is like loudly claiming victory that you have established that doctors aren’t in charge of trimming the hedges in your neighborhood
    - arcfour 1y ago
      No, I'm pointing out that people like yourself are unable to recognize (willfully) government interference resulting in negative outcomes with the government interference you champion. Does it hurt to have this level of cognitive dissonance? "Yes, the government is responsible for these awful things. But if it was responsible for even more things, it would be different and good, because someone told me it would!"

yesco 1y ago

I just go through GoodRx now, makes it like $20 per month for my prescription. You don't even need to make an account with them, it's like coupon you don't even need to print out. Just tell the pharmacist you are going to use GoodRx and you are done. My work insurance seems to change all the time, and while going through GoodRx doesn't count towards my deductible, I prefer the price stability. Not fun when I'm randomly told it's $120 now at the pharmacy because my insurance doesn't cover it now for some fucking inane reason. A few phone calls can often resolve it, but it's the last thing I want to do when I'm a day away from withdrawals kicking in. Even more absurd is this is basically guaranteed to happen more than once a year, THERE IS ONLY 12 MONTHS IN A YEAR!

mh- 1y ago
GoodRx is genuinely a good deal. There's a paid offering (called Gold, I think?) that makes things cheaper, but whether it pays for itself will depend on what you're filling.