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This is where it gets fun. We're on the precipice of being able to install AI into positions of business critical processes. Hiring, billing, sales, and compli

This is where it gets fun. We're on the precipice of being able to install AI into positions of business critical processes. Hiring, billing, sales, and compliance. It's going to be great watching c-suite and VPs who are drunk on the sauce accept AI in these positions and get golden parachutes when the business ends up facing a massive external audit, fraud, and the possibility of bankruptcy.

bongodongobob 1y ago
Pfft. The hammer will come down IT leadership, not execs.
- andy99 1y ago
  IT leadership will blame their subordinates, the ones that knew better - somehow in these things it's always the people who should be able to say "I told you so" that get the blame.
- citizenpaul 1y ago
  >IT Leadership You nailed it. Ive found that HN users in general have terrible understanding of how power dynamics work. Most seem to want to jam some sort of logic outcome to a situation that always only has one outcome. Those with power decide the outcome.
  - shermantanktop 1y ago
    Word. It’s true until events overtake them. But until then, the dominant understanding of a problem is that which preserves the current power structure. And that’s why the C-level AI mania is so fascinating - preserving the status quo usually means rejecting or controlling change. But with AI they are embracing something that could eat their status, presumably out of legitimate fear of the alternative.
    - johnecheck 1y ago
      Ah, I hadn't considered that last bit. That is indeed telling. The status quo is broken. It's a wobbling top. It's no secret; for all they benefit from it, most CEOs know that this isn't sustainable. For better or for worse, change is coming. Perhaps for some, embracing AI is an attempt to get ahead of that.
      - shermantanktop 1y ago
        There’s always some level of change coming - e.g. the petrochemical industry giants attempting to get into renewables, or the US healthcare absorbing Obamacare and thriving, or the industrialization of organic dairy production. This one feels different. I think one element is that AI can be a very effective bullshit generator, and most CEOs and middle managers are deploying some amount of bullshit all day long. So they see a new player on the field who undercuts their strengths and they are responding existentially.
TZubiri 1y ago
Thinking about pivoting to pentesting
at-fates-hands 1y ago
>> nWe're on the precipice of being able to install AI into positions of business critical processes. Hiring, billing, sales, and compliance We're already there. Have been for several years now. I was doing RPA (robotic process automation) for about 4 years in a corporate environment. It went from, "Lets automate these mundane tasks" to "How can we create a billing platform that can be totally automated?". This was back in 2021, just for reference. >> It's going to be great watching c-suite and VPs who are drunk on the sauce Hopefully this will be a cautionary tale of what happens when they do? https://www.reuters.com/legal/lawsuit-claims-unitedhealth-ai-wrongfully-denies-elderly-extended-care-2023-11-14/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/lawsuit-claims-unitedhealth-ai... UnitedHealth Group Inc (UNH.N), uses an artificial intelligence algorithm that systematically denies elderly patients' claims for extended care such as nursing facility stays, according to a proposed class action lawsuit, filed on Tuesday. Family members of two now-deceased UnitedHealth beneficiaries sued the insurer in federal court in Minnesota, saying they were forced to pay out of pocket for care that doctors said was medically necessary.

bongodongobob 1y ago

Pfft. The hammer will come down IT leadership, not execs.

andy99 1y ago
IT leadership will blame their subordinates, the ones that knew better - somehow in these things it's always the people who should be able to say "I told you so" that get the blame.
citizenpaul 1y ago
>IT Leadership You nailed it. Ive found that HN users in general have terrible understanding of how power dynamics work. Most seem to want to jam some sort of logic outcome to a situation that always only has one outcome. Those with power decide the outcome.
- shermantanktop 1y ago
  Word. It’s true until events overtake them. But until then, the dominant understanding of a problem is that which preserves the current power structure. And that’s why the C-level AI mania is so fascinating - preserving the status quo usually means rejecting or controlling change. But with AI they are embracing something that could eat their status, presumably out of legitimate fear of the alternative.
  - johnecheck 1y ago
    Ah, I hadn't considered that last bit. That is indeed telling. The status quo is broken. It's a wobbling top. It's no secret; for all they benefit from it, most CEOs know that this isn't sustainable. For better or for worse, change is coming. Perhaps for some, embracing AI is an attempt to get ahead of that.
    - shermantanktop 1y ago
      There’s always some level of change coming - e.g. the petrochemical industry giants attempting to get into renewables, or the US healthcare absorbing Obamacare and thriving, or the industrialization of organic dairy production. This one feels different. I think one element is that AI can be a very effective bullshit generator, and most CEOs and middle managers are deploying some amount of bullshit all day long. So they see a new player on the field who undercuts their strengths and they are responding existentially.

TZubiri 1y ago

Thinking about pivoting to pentesting

at-fates-hands 1y ago

>> nWe're on the precipice of being able to install AI into positions of business critical processes. Hiring, billing, sales, and compliance We're already there. Have been for several years now. I was doing RPA (robotic process automation) for about 4 years in a corporate environment. It went from, "Lets automate these mundane tasks" to "How can we create a billing platform that can be totally automated?". This was back in 2021, just for reference. >> It's going to be great watching c-suite and VPs who are drunk on the sauce Hopefully this will be a cautionary tale of what happens when they do? https://www.reuters.com/legal/lawsuit-claims-unitedhealth-ai-wrongfully-denies-elderly-extended-care-2023-11-14/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/lawsuit-claims-unitedhealth-ai... UnitedHealth Group Inc (UNH.N), uses an artificial intelligence algorithm that systematically denies elderly patients' claims for extended care such as nursing facility stays, according to a proposed class action lawsuit, filed on Tuesday. Family members of two now-deceased UnitedHealth beneficiaries sued the insurer in federal court in Minnesota, saying they were forced to pay out of pocket for care that doctors said was medically necessary.