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I think ML has lots of potential in this area specifically. Imagine a game with bare-bones graphics and lighting, and a NN that converts it into something pret

I think ML has lots of potential in this area specifically. Imagine a game with bare-bones graphics and lighting, and a NN that converts it into something pretty. Indie developers can make AA-looking games and all game developers can devote more effort into design and logic. Artists will still be needed for art direction and possibly fine-tuning, although there will be less needed for each game (also less developers needed with AI agents and better tools). Related, ML also has potential for AI enemies (and allies). Lots of players still prefer multiplayer, in part because humans are more realistic enemies (but also because they want to beat real humans); but multiplayer games struggle because good netcode is nontrivial, servers are expensive, some players are obnoxious, and most games don’t have a consistent enough playerbase.

mdp2021 1y ago
> Imagine a game with bare-bones graphics and lighting https://eu-images.contentstack.com/v3/assets/blt740a130ae3c5d529/bltd8d2726f757bf427/650a55ceee3a150a658d8e5f/shot_1_01.jpg https://eu-images.contentstack.com/v3/assets/blt740a130ae3c5... # The Art Of Braid: Creating A Visual Identity For An Unusual Game https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/the-art-of-braid-creating-a-visual-identity-for-an-unusual-game https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/the-art-of-braid-creati...
cyanydeez 1y ago
I don't think you have a realistic view of how this will be used. First, porn. Second, artificial botting to make your game look active. Third, hire a art developer in india, VPN them to your AI tool, fire them when the game is done. You really should check your prescription rose colored glasses.
- BobbyJo 1y ago
  So? Why would that stop us from doing cool things for games?
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      - cyanydeez 1y ago
        If thats insane, gotta assume youre an ostrich for the last decade.
- viraptor 1y ago
  > artificial botting to make your game look active. There's no reason to involve an NN in this one. We had convincing bots with varied behaviours for ages.
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- serf 1y ago
  >Second, artificial botting to make your game look active. MMOs have been using artificial players produced by the developers since at least the early EverQuest days. The choice space in an mmo isn't that great, it's trivial to make a realistic acting NPC that mimics player behaviors and hand-wave the poor language capability as the other player being a unable to understand your chosen language. NCSoft was involved in things like this in the early Lineage days and were fined for it. I would have a real hard time thinking this behavior is now uncommon given how low the fruit is. Deck an NPC-Player in the most expensive cash-shop goods and have it stand around in a social area doing emotes but otherwise silent just to make the other players jealous and apt to purchase goods -- self-generated whale-bait.
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mdp2021 1y ago

> Imagine a game with bare-bones graphics and lighting https://eu-images.contentstack.com/v3/assets/blt740a130ae3c5d529/bltd8d2726f757bf427/650a55ceee3a150a658d8e5f/shot_1_01.jpg https://eu-images.contentstack.com/v3/assets/blt740a130ae3c5... # The Art Of Braid: Creating A Visual Identity For An Unusual Game https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/the-art-of-braid-creating-a-visual-identity-for-an-unusual-game https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/the-art-of-braid-creati...

cyanydeez 1y ago

I don't think you have a realistic view of how this will be used. First, porn. Second, artificial botting to make your game look active. Third, hire a art developer in india, VPN them to your AI tool, fire them when the game is done. You really should check your prescription rose colored glasses.

BobbyJo 1y ago
So? Why would that stop us from doing cool things for games?
- cyanydeez 1y ago
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  - mathiaspoint 1y ago
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    - cyanydeez 1y ago
      If thats insane, gotta assume youre an ostrich for the last decade.
viraptor 1y ago
> artificial botting to make your game look active. There's no reason to involve an NN in this one. We had convincing bots with varied behaviours for ages.
- cyanydeez 1y ago
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serf 1y ago
>Second, artificial botting to make your game look active. MMOs have been using artificial players produced by the developers since at least the early EverQuest days. The choice space in an mmo isn't that great, it's trivial to make a realistic acting NPC that mimics player behaviors and hand-wave the poor language capability as the other player being a unable to understand your chosen language. NCSoft was involved in things like this in the early Lineage days and were fined for it. I would have a real hard time thinking this behavior is now uncommon given how low the fruit is. Deck an NPC-Player in the most expensive cash-shop goods and have it stand around in a social area doing emotes but otherwise silent just to make the other players jealous and apt to purchase goods -- self-generated whale-bait.

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