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> My point is that there is open levels of collusion with the Biden admin (and Obama earlier) and media corps What do you mean?

lesuorac 1y ago
It's probably a reference to the twitter files which showed coordinated efforts between Trump term1 and Twitter.
- LPisGood 1y ago
  The “Twitter files” showed almost nothing of substance, to my knowledge. What are these coordinated efforts you’re talking about?
  - tstrimple 1y ago
    The Twitter Files, much like the Mueller Report is useful to determine who the disingenuous or ignorant are. The people most likely to bring them up make claims completely opposite to what is actually contained within the documents because that's what they were told was in them. They can't ever be bothered to actually read the things they are using as "evidence". They just have to point to them ominously. To them the Twitter files proves that Democrats and Twitter collaborated to suppress conservative voices and boost liberals despite showing nothing to that effect. To them the Mueller Report fully exonerates Trump and proves it was nothing but a Democratic smear campaign. Despite it showing the opposite. Reality doesn't matter anymore. These are "facts" to roughly 1/3rd of the US population.
Cuuugi 1y ago
Twitter Files, the FBI @ facebook This case just doesnt sit right with me. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/26/biden-admin-cant-be-sued-for-pressuring-social-medias-to-remove-misinfo-00165051 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/26/biden-admin-cant-be...
- LPisGood 1y ago
  Foreign operatives were legitimately engaging in information warfare against the American people, so it makes sense for FBI and others to let American companies know when their platforms are being used for these things. This is especially true when such content is already against the policy of those services.
  - Cuuugi 1y ago
    "Foreign operatives were legitimately engaging in information warfare against the American people" - says the government at the time, therein lies the concern. No Government should regulate the internet.
    - LPisGood 1y ago
      That’s all well and good if you live in lala land where nothing bad is ever happening that isn’t the current government’s fault, but here in the Real World, the impacts of foreign governments engaging in an information war need to be dealt with. Part of that begins with acknowledging the objective fact that foreign state actors are engaged in such an information war.
      - Cuuugi 1y ago
        Covid was created in a lab funded by the Chinese and the NIH, that's accepted as fact at this stage. I don't think I'm living in lala land if i say the US Gov't has any stake in avoiding blame.
        LPisGood 1y ago
        Accepted by whom?
    - tzs 1y ago
      Telling a site that it has content on it that is against that site's own policy is not regulating the internet. Especially when there is no real or implied threat against the site if they do not remove that content.

lesuorac 1y ago

It's probably a reference to the twitter files which showed coordinated efforts between Trump term1 and Twitter.

LPisGood 1y ago
The “Twitter files” showed almost nothing of substance, to my knowledge. What are these coordinated efforts you’re talking about?
- tstrimple 1y ago
  The Twitter Files, much like the Mueller Report is useful to determine who the disingenuous or ignorant are. The people most likely to bring them up make claims completely opposite to what is actually contained within the documents because that's what they were told was in them. They can't ever be bothered to actually read the things they are using as "evidence". They just have to point to them ominously. To them the Twitter files proves that Democrats and Twitter collaborated to suppress conservative voices and boost liberals despite showing nothing to that effect. To them the Mueller Report fully exonerates Trump and proves it was nothing but a Democratic smear campaign. Despite it showing the opposite. Reality doesn't matter anymore. These are "facts" to roughly 1/3rd of the US population.

Cuuugi 1y ago

Twitter Files, the FBI @ facebook This case just doesnt sit right with me. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/26/biden-admin-cant-be-sued-for-pressuring-social-medias-to-remove-misinfo-00165051 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/26/biden-admin-cant-be...

LPisGood 1y ago
Foreign operatives were legitimately engaging in information warfare against the American people, so it makes sense for FBI and others to let American companies know when their platforms are being used for these things. This is especially true when such content is already against the policy of those services.
- Cuuugi 1y ago
  "Foreign operatives were legitimately engaging in information warfare against the American people" - says the government at the time, therein lies the concern. No Government should regulate the internet.
  - LPisGood 1y ago
    That’s all well and good if you live in lala land where nothing bad is ever happening that isn’t the current government’s fault, but here in the Real World, the impacts of foreign governments engaging in an information war need to be dealt with. Part of that begins with acknowledging the objective fact that foreign state actors are engaged in such an information war.
    - Cuuugi 1y ago
      Covid was created in a lab funded by the Chinese and the NIH, that's accepted as fact at this stage. I don't think I'm living in lala land if i say the US Gov't has any stake in avoiding blame.
      - LPisGood 1y ago
        Accepted by whom?
  - tzs 1y ago
    Telling a site that it has content on it that is against that site's own policy is not regulating the internet. Especially when there is no real or implied threat against the site if they do not remove that content.